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Le 11/07/2024 à 02:35, Ben Bacarisse a écrit :
> Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> writes:
> 
>> Am 11.07.2024 um 02:28 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>>> On 7/10/2024 5:24 PM, Moebius wrote:
>>>> Am 11.07.2024 um 02:16 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>>>>
>>>>> {a, b, c} vs { 3, 4, 5 }
>>>>>
>>>>> Both have the same number of elements, [...]
>>>>
>>>> HOW do you know that? Please define (for any sets A, B):
>>>>
>>>>      A and B /have the same number of elements/ iff ___________________ .
>>>>
>>>> (i.e. fill out the blanks). :-)
>>>>
>>>> Hint: That's what Ben Bacarisse is asking for.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, it's "obvious" for us. But how would you define "have the same
>>>> number of elements" (in mathematical terms) such that it can be DEDUCED
>>>> (!) für certain sets A and B?
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I'm slighty vicious now... :-)
>>>>
>>>> If a = b = c, {a, b, c} still has "the same number of elements" as {3,
>>>> 4, 5 }? :-P
>>> I see {a, b, c} and {3, 4, 5} and think three elements.
>>
>> Even if a = b = c = 1?
>>
>> C'mon man! :-P
> 
> Please, that's a red herring, and you know it!  No where did I say that
> a, b and c stood for anything (i.e. that they might be variables in the
> maths sense).  I this sort of context they are just distinct symbols.

Franz Fritsche cannot understand that and thinks that the whole world has 
to apply his 
quotation mark rule, because some adored logician has taught it.

Regards, WM