Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: More farm workers infected by the dairy virus Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 09:04:53 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="7524"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:HKc2D2VKi1Dd/eTevxz8XZOLQtk= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id BA225229782; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 10:04:48 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998DA229765 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 10:04:46 -0400 (EDT) id 24EDF5DC73; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 14:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03BD95DC4B for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 14:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37BFC5F780 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 14:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/37BFC5F780; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id B4B60DC01A9; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 16:04:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 16:04:55 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+hEGc2YkI3g85+Q0ZyqmIfX3EotYLoMt4= Content-Language: en-US FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 5627 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/three-presumptive-bird-flu-cases-reported-poultry-workers-colorado-rcna161686 3 farm workers cleaning up an infected poultry farm were infected by the Dairy virus. Where the Dairy virus goes poultry flocks start to go down. In Michigan they found that some dairy workers at infected farms also worked at poultry farms, and around twice as many had close contacts that worked on poultry farms (17%). They have known from Texas with the first poultry flock to go down with the Dairy virus that humans likely took the virus onto the poultry farm. They tried to blame equipment because the virus is not infective off skin and clothing for more than half an hour, but can remain infective on a solid surface for 24 hours. An infected person shedding virus is obviously the bests means to infect the poultry flock and other dairy herds that did not get infected cattle. They already had an example of an infected dairy worker shedding virus in Texas, so it seemed obvious that infected humans were taking the virus to poultry farms by the time all the flocks in Michigan began to go down, but the USDA and CDC have been in willful denial mode. Infected humans have been transferring the virus to Dairy herds in states that did not get cattle, and have been infecting poultry flocks with the dairy virus. The work determining how many dairy workers have been infected has never been done at this time, but everyone knows that more than 4 is not just likely but a given. Only 61 dairy workers have been tested of those 61 the CDC admits that over half were not tested correctly (only nasal swabs when most of the positive cases have been negative for nasal swabs but positive for eye swabs). There has been no attempt to identify all the infected herds in order to limit the infection and human contacts. The willful stupidity is likely politically driven. Instead of trying to prevent the next pandemic the CDC has decided to monitor all states for influenza activity, and if there is an increase in influenza cases they will act. This is so tragically lame. Instead of prevent the virus from evolving into a pandemic virus they will try to contain the issue after it becomes an issue in the human population. Colorado demonstrates how stupid this strategy is. The dairy worker infected in Colorado had respiratory symptoms. The poultry workers had eye infections, but some of them also had respiratory symptoms. The virus can obviously infect humans whether it comes from cows or birds, and in Colorado it is becoming a respiratory infection. They need to identify all the infected herds and now poultry flocks in Colorado and quarantine the herds and farm workers. The more herds infected the more humans will be infected, the more chance that the virus will evolve into a pandemic virus. Willful stupidity should not be allowed to continue. Ron Okimoto