Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Space and spacetime Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 12:46:15 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <419d1cda40b2d72908760701d026eaae@www.novabbs.com> References: <0_2RlZkEX7ZgJnjVZbx6GZo_ilk@jntp> <17da0f7c0f2b5328$153561$441546$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="386737"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="p+/k+WRPC4XqxRx3JUZcWF5fRnK/u/hzv6aL21GRPZM"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$S9P0PM2paXnTXSSAVCuV1e8x2dlq6zidBpsMJyMmtow1KLS7plUP6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 47dad9ee83da8658a9a980eb24d2d25075d9b155 Bytes: 3253 Lines: 57 Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > W dniu 18.06.2024 o 11:01, Richard Hachel pisze: > > > > Le 18/06/2024 à 06:07, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit : > > > > > > Neither is this an argument, counter or otherwise.  Science is NOT > > > based on what is said or written.  It is based on whether the > > > analysis agrees with what occurs, i.e., the outcomes of > experiments. > > > > This is science as you imagine it. > > This is not always true. We must not neglect the human aspect. Do you mean [gasp!] that scientists would LIE about their experiments? What about Dr. Hachel who never does any experiments, but lies about them anyway? > > Especially when it comes to theoretical science or medical science > where > you can either hide because it's embarrassing, or lie to make money. I don't know any rich theoretical physicists, nor any that hide. Proposing new ideas based upon extending present understanding is a good thing, IMHO, but proposing opinions based on fluff is not. “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.” -- Douglas Adams > > What is said or written is not only > > the basement, but also the only content > > of science. Nope. The foundation is what has been written about a phenomenon AND what has been verified by repeated experiments. Theoretical physics is not in the same category - until it has been verified - by observation and/ or by experiment. There are phenomena that are not exactly repeatable, subject to unknown factors (human or otherwise), that are another category. > Science is an advanced informational system. That's too narrow a definition. > And Harrie-like idiots are trying to include > some Heavenly Force into it, because > 1)they have no slighest clue how the system is > developed and maintained > 2)it would make them Heavenly Chosen Ones. That sounds like Wozzie is describing himself :-)