Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Ancient tetrapod predator Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 14:51:02 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Sender: news%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="86577"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:epoDbKAo6Goo2BIVXqPuBQBZ8HA= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 77B8D22987A; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 15:51:06 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5490E229878 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 15:51:04 -0400 (EDT) id 0D26E5DC6A; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 19:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E084D5DC4B for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 19:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B47F25F731 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 19:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/B47F25F731; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id E71E5DC01A9; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 21:51:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 21:51:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+//HQ9mO4Gu1Q/1cC+OdgcTL7fF8rcgGc= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4401 On 7/4/2024 9:18 AM, John Harshman wrote: > On 7/3/24 6:29 PM, RonO wrote: >> On 7/3/2024 5:56 PM, John Harshman wrote: >>> On 7/3/24 3:04 PM, RonO wrote: >>>> https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/fossils-show-huge-salamanderlike-predator-sharp-fangs-existed-111645297 >>>> >>>> The giant salamander with fangs may have lived 280 million years >>>> ago, and they claim that Namibia was in a much colder region of the >>>> world at that time (they claim glacial region). >>>> >>>> Click on the link in the fourth paragraph and you can get a copy of >>>> the Nature article to read, otherwise the article is pay walled. >>>> >>>> Ron Okimoto >>>> >>> What do you mean by "they claim"? Are you trying to cast doubt on the >>> Permian glaciation? There's plenty of evidence for it. >>> >> >> Why would you think that I was casting doubt on their claims. > > That's more or less what "they claim" connotes. Perhaps you misspoke? Perhaps you misunderstood. They did make those claims in the paper. > >> The paper indicates that if the region of Pangea that is now Namibia >> was as cold as they think, then amphibians had adapted to colder >> climates after diversification during the Caboniferous. > > "As cold as they think" is hardly a matter of "if". That part of > Gondwana was near the south pole at the time, and there's all sorts of > evidence of a protracted series of ice ages. There were of course > interglacials, but there would still have been very long, cold winters. > Think Alaska. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Paleozoic_icehouse > You seem to want to misunderstand what I wrote. Ron Okimoto