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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: This makes all Analytic(Olcott) truth computable
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 05:52:03 -0500
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On 8/10/2024 3:13 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-08-09 15:29:18 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 8/9/2024 10:19 AM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 8/9/2024 3:46 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-08-08 16:01:19 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It does seem that he is all hung up on not understanding
>>>>> how the synonymity of bachelor and unmarried works.
>>>>
>>>> What in the synonymity, other than the synonymity itself,
>>>> would be relevant to Quine's topic?
>>>>
>>>
>>> He mentions it 98 times in his paper
>>> https://www.ditext.com/quine/quine.html
>>> I haven't looked at it in years.
>>>
>>>>> I don't really give a rat's ass what he said all that matters
>>>>> to me is that I have defined expressions of language that are
>>>>> {true on the basis of their meaning expressed in language}
>>>>> so that I have analytic(Olcott) to make my other points.
>>>>
>>>> That does not justify lying.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I never lie. Sometimes I make mistakes.
>>> It looks like you only want to dodge the actual
>>> topic with any distraction that you can find.
>>>
>>> Expressions of language that are {true on the basis of
>>> their meaning expressed in this same language} defines
>>> analytic(Olcott) that overcomes any objections that
>>> anyone can possibly have about the analytic/synthetic
>>> distinction.
>>>
>>
>> Expressions of language that are {true on the basis of
>> their meaning expressed in this same language} defines
>> analytic(Olcott) that overcomes any objections that
>> anyone can possibly have about the analytic/synthetic
>> distinction.
>>
>> This makes all Analytic(Olcott) truth computable or the
>> expression is simply untrue because it lacks a truthmaker.
> 
> No, it doesn't. An algrithm or at least a proof of existence of an
> algrithm makes something computable. You  can't compute if you con't
> know how. The truth makeker of computability is an algorithm.
> 

There is either a sequence of truth preserving operations from
the set of expressions stipulated to be true (AKA the verbal
model of the actual world) to x or x is simply untrue. This is
how the Liar Paradox is best refuted.

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