Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 22:37:51 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 123 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:37:52 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d7b6b7ddfe8775f34f568700240d9d1b"; logging-data="2701383"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18yC/T0LQmZeDZv+XGrDV10" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:lazrilFds8evUOcsVblcBPP0yi0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 6481 On 6/26/2024 10:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/26/24 10:46 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/26/2024 9:38 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/26/24 10:10 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/26/2024 8:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 6/26/24 9:12 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 6/26/2024 7:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/26/24 8:24 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/26/2024 6:52 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mike understands how your use of static variables is cheating. >>>>>>>> Others here will be baffled and confused. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But the rules are the rules, and you can't create rules you >>>>>>> didn't state. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you really have such brain damage that you cannot remember >>>>>> that we already discussed this and closed it I will start >>>>>> praying for you. >>>>> >>>>> And if I am allowed, or even required to remember that, then I can >>>>> remember that your Hs are all designed to be Halt Deciders, and >>>>> thus the only correct behavior for their input is that of the >>>>> direct execution of the program the input represents. >>>>> >>>> >>>> NONE-THE-LESS I WILL NOT TOLERATE YOU LEAPING TO THE CONCLUSION >>>> THAT I AM INCORRECT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH EVER SINGLE STEP. >>>> *When you do this I will point out your specific deceit* >>> >>> But if you don't include the restriction, it isn't there, and the >>> fact we are so many steps ahead of you isn't grounds to say we don't >>> know what we know. >>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> YOU CAN'T FREAKING USE ANY STATIC LOCAL VARIABLES TO >>>>>> CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR AND YOU KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T USE >>>>>> THEM SO FREAKING QUIT IT !!! >>>>>> >>>>>> _DDD() >>>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping >>>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping >>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD) >>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04 >>>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp >>>>>> [00002183] c3               ret >>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>>>> >>>>>> The call from DDD to H0(DDD) when DDD is correctly emulated >>>>>> by x86 emulator H0 cannot possibly return. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But it does, it just isn't emulated by H0. >>>>> >>>> >>>> THAT IS THE FREAKING DAMNED LIAR STRAW-MAN DECEPTION. >>> >>> The "Behavior" of the input is DEFINED by the semantics of the x86 >>> instruction set. >>> >>> NO instruction, other than Halt, stops the processor from continuing, >>> thus the behavior of the input doesn't stop just because the emulator >>> stoped processing it. >>> >>>> >>>> When I say that there are some people that are so poor >>>> that they are starving to death and we must halt them >>>> >>>> you cannot (morally) say there is no need to help them >>>> because rich people are not starving to death. >>> >>> RED HERRING. >>> >>>> >>>> Christ taught in parables I teach in isomorphisms. >>>> >>> >>> But broken ones, that are just RED HERRING LIES. >>> >>> And, I know Christ, and you are NOT Christ, and it is almost >>> blasphemous for you to make that comparasion, especially since you >>> have claimed to be God in the past. >>> >>> THAT WILL send you to Gehenna. >> >> I am not the liar here. I think that we have gone >> way beyond reasonable doubt that you have told lies. > > Really, so what statement have I said that isn't actually true. > > Not just that you disagree with it, since you have been proven to be a > liar, but that you can actualy preove to be untrtue. > > Your ignorance does not make my statements lies. > >> >> Maybe you are one of those "Christians" that believes >> once saved always saved even if you commit genocide >> for fun an profit. >> > > Nope. You don't know me well, so you are just making your typical wild > guesses with no basis. > That is what gets you in trouble every time. > As ALWAYS I hypothesize possibilities. Since you neither confirmed nor denied it remains open. You know that you are doing the best that you can to disable an honest dialogue. I have backed you into a corner on some of your lies. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer