Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.neodome.net!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: fir Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: on allowing "int a" definition everywhere Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 20:04:29 +0200 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <7ea05965a67fa09d4ebd0b6ec53109dcb0b12f76@i2pn2.org> <3775b5abd14443f89852e05177a44bd72585cbdd@i2pn2.org> <4c7a695b1b755393162a1ae36ea6306760ffe949@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 18:04:30 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="4128176"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="+ydHcGjgSeBt3Wz3WTfKefUptpAWaXduqfw5xdfsuS0"; User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:27.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/27.0 SeaMonkey/2.24 In-Reply-To: <4c7a695b1b755393162a1ae36ea6306760ffe949@i2pn2.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3622 Lines: 87 fir wrote: > fir wrote: >> fir wrote: >>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:40:39 +0200, fir wrote: >>>> >>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Somehow along the line from BCPL to B to C, one useful feature was >>>>>> lost: the ability to have a value-returning statement block inside an >>>>>> expression. >>>>>> >>>>> if so thats probably sad, though i dont know how it looked like >>>> >>>> The construct looks like >>>> >>>> VALOF $( ... «stmts»; RESULTIS «return-value» $) >>>> >>> >>> it is good to things return value and good to be able to combine it >>> >>> as i sait for example i consider such loops >>> >>> 10'x //ten tiem execute x >>> >>> print (10'x+=x)/10 >>> >>> would be equivalent of >>> >>> for(int i=0; i<10; i++) x+=x; >>> print(x/10) >>> >>> (and its still c, just with shorted syntax not python et sort) >>> >>> >> >> as to this loop as i said i had no ide how to make indexes like i >> in this form but what comes to my mind now is maybe something lika >> >> >> 10'print("x") >> >> 10i'print(i) >> >> >> 480y' 640x' set_pixel(x,y, 0xffff00) >> >> those i,x,y in loop 'headers' could be possibly subscripted >> like 2 in typical H20 (2 is subscripted >> >> eventually one can go >> >> 10' print((x 0)++) >> >> where x 0 is initialisation of int x to zero >> >> > > overally not bad, i could somewhat accept that loop > (yu wouldnt belive how hard is come to that syntax conclusions, > literally takes years, and not 5 years more like 15) > > i wanted to compore how many chars my thin c skin conventions would make (but not having funic F for wloat or runic U for unsigned) i put ` and the spare is not great becouse c is quite thin - hovever it uses a lot of what i call 'decorators i eman not necessary ().; which could be changed to spaces, it not spares chars but somewhat spares ink on fictional snippet (probebly not working) void draw_line( float x, float y, float x2, float y2, unsigned color) { float wx=dist(x,x2),wy=dist(y,y2); int m=wx