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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: About WiFi7 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 22:21:49 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 152 Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2024 02:21:50 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="14871"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:y0G3IJU7Zno/OAGQpsuW+f/eF4A= sha256:7Xs0QiBVRnq+eQDgKVttLrxUjFJTNTFNJf7zPNgL844= sha1:u1kyqVHIxr4dKrEVuBLrzfDxKkM= sha256:2jTgiHWgqq9YAwtNAbcPoIhxfCHT1iM8br+skVMnRGw= X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Bytes: 8717 "Don Y" wrote in message news:vabe2v$142d4$2@dont-email.me... > On 8/23/2024 5:39 PM, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>>>> Would you, instead, like that to be conveyed to your ISP via your access point, >>>>>>> over-the-air to your cell phone -- which you will have to access in order to >>>>>>> "see" the scene? All those third-parties on which you will rely? >>>>>> >>>>>> What does my ISP have to do with packets traveling between devices on my LAN?? >>>>> >>>>> Do you have a long cord connecting your LAN to the car as it approaches from >>>>> down the street? >>>> >>>> Why would anyone need to see inside their garage as they approach from down the street?? >>> >>> You don't -- unless the door doesn't want to open on your command. Here, >>> if that happened because SWMBO was digging through the freezer chest and >>> the dogs were at her feet, I would TELL her to get the dogs in the house >>> so I could pull in. >> >> How would you know in advance that the door wasn't going to open on your command? > > YOU DON'T! The *door* (house) does! > >> How would you tell her? By phone? Isn't that inconvenient? > > *YOU* can't! *I* can! I have a button on the dash that connects me to > the house via a "long range (1/2 mile) cordless phone". So, I can talk > TO THE HOUSE (not to her) and tell *it* that I am on the way home -- adjust > the HVAC, lighting and entertainment, accordingly. If I've been out > shopping, maybe tell SWMBO (for me) that I am on my way and would appreciate > some help unloading the car. Open the garage door BEFORE I get to the house > and have to wait for it to completely open. > > If THE HOUSE realizes that it can't safely open the door, the HOUSE tells > me. You have very clever houses in your area. I prefer to adjust the lighting when I'm at home, not from half a mile away. > If the reason is "because someone/something has been detected IN > the garage", then I have the option to view the overhead video (normally > used as an aid in parking) to see the problem (maybe I forgot that I > was working in the garage and neglected to put the saw horses away) > or ASK WHOMEVER IS IN THE GARAGE if there is any reason they can't > make the garage safe for my entrance -- or, should I park on the driveway? > > No need for cell phones. No need for third party services. > > Gee, can't you do that with your "I can work from any country" setup > (I can phone the house and tell it that "I will be home in 27 minutes" > and have it take those actions; can you?) > >> I would put the freezer in the house and make sure the garage door is not obstructed by dogs or anything else. >> Problem solved. > > Bigger house. No pets. I guess that's a naive solution. Just tell > folks to park in the street is even simpler! > > One neighbor took the side off his car by misjudging his position > in the garage. Another neighbor leaves her car in the driveway for > her husband to come out and pull it in. Damn near everyone has some > hack in place to facilitate parking (tennis balls on strings, > floor mounted wheel guides, etc.) > > I guess if you have a 4 car garage and/or a basement some of these problems > can go away... > >>> Why would they need a garage door opener? Why would that opener need safety >>> features? If the nose of your car hangs above the photoelectric sensors, >>> will the door KNOW this? Or, will it gladly close on your door, putting a >>> crease in your hood (when the over-current sensor on the motor detected the >>> "obstruction" -- BY TOUCH)? >> >> Sorry but I'm beginning to wonder whether you live on the same planet as me. > > Perhaps not. This is Earth. I see folks with rear windshield wipers torn > off their cars because they left the back hatch open when pulling in/out > of the garage. Door dings because they couldn't precisely navigate their > position within the garage. > > I *watched* a neighbor RUN OVER his own child because the child ran to > fetch a ball that had rolled under the car as the father was backing out. > > Yes, Earth is a tough place. Maybe it's nicer on Planet Fantasia... > >>> That's not under your control. My WiFi use *is* under my control -- I own the >>> AP and the radio in the car. No one else can connect to those things. >>> >>>> If the location which does my oil change is uploading my driving habits to the car manufacturer then I would certainly like to >>>> know >>>> about that. >>> >>> They don't have to. The CAR does it. >> >> By what means? Please describe the specific communication channel the car is using when it uploads my driving habits to the >> manufacturer. > > Ask your car *manufacturer* what bands they use. Is this the secret car communication network I'm not aware of? I think maybe I'll just park my car in a Faraday cage. > Did you read the > LexisNexis reference in the article YOU cited? Where do you think > GM got the data for those drivers? Do you think they voluntarily > filled out questionnaires: > - In the past 6 months, how many times have you exceeded 88 MPH? > - In the past 6 months, how many itme have you hard accelerated? > - In the past 6 months, how many times have you failed to wear a seat belt? > - In the past... > >>> They, as a service to you, will reset >>> the "maintenance minder" (that the car controls based on mileage, habits, >>> etc.). The car *likely* would convey the event "Maintenance Minder Reset" >>> to the vendor. >> >> By what communication channel? > > See above. What do you think YOU are going to do about it? > >>> So, the vendor knows that SOMEONE serviced your vehicle >>> (and they can easily determine that it wasn't the dealer -- because the >>> dealer has no record of servicing your vehicle). Provide the GPS >>> coordinates (available to the car at all times!) >> >> Jamming GPS isn't hard but we needn't go into that. > > Just don't tell the car that it has been serviced. It can tell if > it has been refueled... but, not if it has had its oil changed, > tires rotated, serpentine belt replaced, etc. > >>> [I can tell -- to a high degree of certainty -- if someone in my house took >>> a bath, shower, or shit (and, whether or not he washed his hands!), based on >>> how long he was in the bathroom, the total volume of water consumed and its >>> rate of flow.] >> >> You must be popular with visitors. > > Goal is not to please visitors but to let the house assist aging occupants > with retaining their independence for as long as possible. Delaying a > half million -- million dollar "buy in" with $3-6K monthly maintenance > for an extra year is worth a fair bit. Detecting a potential hazard > ("Help, I've fallen and can't get up!") adds to that value. > > Folks NOT in that situation can benefit from the houses anticipation of their > needs based on an analysis of their behaviors. Why have to *tell* all > of the appliances in your house what you want? Why can't they WATCH to > see how you've used them and infer that? > >