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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: This makes all Analytic(Olcott) truth computable --- truth-bearer Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 10:45:45 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: <662de0ccc3dc5a5f0be0918d340aa3314d51a348@i2pn2.org> <02642e518edd3aa9152cd47e4e527f21ee53a0e8@i2pn2.org> <60c0214582c7f97e49ef6f8853bff95569774f97@i2pn2.org> <4d8c7b1c69915ebbe108d7f4e29cf6172eac7759@i2pn2.org> <43690773dba43c5d93d11635af0a26532e5be390@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 09:45:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bc8c8ad877fece46b9cf9f72007a8e93"; logging-data="3581477"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19YO7PepvfjtwlFMSXR118+" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:mhzPrH4ypk0K8KKV4TpAeIkE8rc= Bytes: 3575 On 2024-08-24 03:26:39 +0000, olcott said: > On 8/23/2024 3:34 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-08-22 13:23:39 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> On 8/22/2024 7:06 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2024-08-21 12:47:37 +0000, olcott said: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Formal systems kind of sort of has some vague idea of what True >>>>> means. Tarski "proved" that there is no True(L,x) that can be >>>>> consistently defined. >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Tarski%27s_undefinability_theorem#General_form >>>>> >>>>> *The defined predicate True(L,x) fixed that* >>>>> Unless expression x has a connection (through a sequence >>>>> of true preserving operations) in system F to its semantic >>>>> meanings expressed in language L of F then x is simply >>>>> untrue in F. >>>>> >>>>> Whenever there is no sequence of truth preserving from >>>>> x or ~x to its meaning in L of F then x has no truth-maker >>>>> in F and x not a truth-bearer in F. We never get to x is >>>>> undecidable in F. >>>> >>>> Tarski proved that True is undefineable in certain formal systems. >>>> Your definition is not expressible in F, at least not as a definition. >>>> >>> >>> Like ZFC redefined the foundation of all sets I redefine >>> the foundation of all formal systems. >> >> You cannot redefine the foundation of all formal systems. Every formal >> system has the foundation it has and that cannot be changed. Formal >> systems are eternal and immutable. >> > > Then According to your reasoning ZFC is wrong because > it is not allowed to redefine the foundation of set > theory. It did not redefine anything. It is just another theory. It is called a set theory because its terms have many similarities to Cnator's sets. -- Mikko