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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Tony Cooper Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: Word of the day: “Papoose” Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 18:45:04 -0400 Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <87a5gsplpx.fsf@parhasard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net qUl8xqUkxkdjxjSD1OAEEgRdsdw0guFMOrlb6XRqZuD+nOtGq+ Cancel-Lock: sha1:b3bnFYgtBI1deJyzLXrj5XDeNcM= sha256:5/CEWYWD6v8Mauf+WvqsCftMUkA+69geYnqvQd2Hq4Q= User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.20.32.1218 X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240831-6, 8/31/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 3164 On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 19:54:02 +0100, Aidan Kehoe wrote: > >I came across this word for the first time today, in the second meaning from >Wikipedia, describing basically something to swaddle a toddler to keep it still >for a procedure in Emergency Medicine: > >“Papoose (from the Narragansett papoos, meaning "child")[1] is an American >English word whose present meaning is "a Native American child" (regardless of >tribe) or, even more generally, any child, usually used as a term of >endearment, often in the context of the child's mother.[2] In 1643, Roger >Williams recorded the word in his A Key into the Language of America, helping >to popularize it.[3] >[...] >Cradle boards and other child carriers used by Native Americans are known by >various names. In Algonquin history, the term papoose is sometimes used to >refer to a child carrier.” > >Given I am 43 and fairly well-read I can assert that it has basically no >currency outside the US. Does it have much currency within the US? Interesting question. My reaction is "When would you need to use the word?". I, of course, know the word, but can't think of any reason to use the word unless I'm describing an (American) Indian person with an certain type of infant carrier. That's not something that I frequently - or even infrequently - need to do. To have "currency", in my understanding, means the need must be present. I frequently see people with modern baby carriers strapped to their back or front and containing an infant. But, I wouldn't use "papoose" in that context. However, the title of this photograph seems appropriate. "Osage Indian Woman with Baby Carrier" is not. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Oklahoma_-_Osage_Indian_Woman_and_Papoose_%28NBY_431198%29.jpg/381px-Oklahoma_-_Osage_Indian_Woman_and_Papoose_%28NBY_431198%29.jpg?20180303162734 I disagree with the definition "Papoose (from the Narragansett papoos, meaning "child") is an American English word whose present meaning is "a Native American child". I don't think the present meaning is the child. The present meaning is "a Native American child in a child carrier". If the child isn't in the carrier, I don't think anyone would describe the child as a "papoose".