Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!dummy01.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Janis Papanagnou Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Top 10 most common hard skills listed on resumes... Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2024 05:58:25 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <875xrkxlgo.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <87o75bwlp8.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <871q27weeh.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <20240829083200.195@kylheku.com> <87v7zjuyd8.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <20240829084851.962@kylheku.com> <87mskvuxe9.fsf@bsb.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2024 05:58:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7c62bf7f846a95dba5faec77c27ae61c"; logging-data="1909487"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/SV77Hp5l9eWdjzxPnOskO" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:dNiJ2sRQgyJUeLYUksnkuSsYrks= In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2567 On 08.09.2024 05:53, Janis Papanagnou wrote: > On 07.09.2024 12:53, Bart wrote: >> >> I remarked that a proper HLL would let you write just A to either read >> the value of variable A, or write to it. Eg. A = A, without special >> operators to dereference A's address. >> >> At the lower level it might be push/pop, load/store, or even *&A = *&A, >> but in all cases you typically use the same levels of indirection on >> both sides. > > No. (And I think here lies your misconception or irritations concerning > the term "symmetry".) When writing 'A = A' there is still a semantical > _asymmetry_ in "C", it only appears symmetric (because of the chosen > operator symbol and the implicit 'deref' operation which is typical in > most programming languages). To clarify my wording; typical is not an [explicit] 'deref' but its _implicit_ use. > Janis > >> [...] > >