Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan ) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Things presented in-story as Good Ideas that seem like really Bad Ideas Date: 10 Sep 2024 04:02:13 GMT Organization: loft Lines: 80 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: individual.net MzdkHQacMl6zDDHRGS/E+Qm8gpRnjbw3LwLsELm9vfpyPc/AWi X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:i9bOoQd88AU1SQHySNJSt3KM8Lk= sha256:QmBeg+qxUQpTHayKE+PisjJRMYYmgdGjq/eCbPTl0Is= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Bytes: 3792 In article , Mad Hamish wrote: >On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 14:42:10 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James >Nicoll) wrote: > >>In article , >>Ted Nolan wrote: >>>Lucky Starr's "Council Of Science", the Venus Belt, the Federation's >>>"Prime Directive". Things like that. >>> >>>Examples? >>> >>>(How about we exempt Super-Powered Vigilantes) >> >>The protagonists of Ben Bova's The Return solves women's insatiable >>desire to have infinite children by secretly using alien super- >>science to install fertility limiters on all women. Each woman can >>have two kids and then they are sterile. >> >>Some issues: >> >>It's an egregious violation of personal autonomy. >> >>Women do not in fact want infinite babies. >> >>Some women won't have babies at all and some children will die >>before reproducing. Therefore, the population will decline until >>humans go extinct. >> >>The last will be a real issue for the interstellar colonies that >>head out at the end of the book, none of whom know their population >>can only decline. > >I think you reviewed something where each couple was limited to 1 kid >and the population seemed stable? If that's addressed to me, yes: Eye of the Colossus: A Steampunk Space Opera Adventure (A Holly Drake Job Book 1) by Nicole Grotepas https://amzn.to/2HP8TLo Hands of the Colossus: A Steampunk Space Opera Adventure (A Holly Drake Job Book 2) by Nicole Grotepas https://amzn.to/2WzseDk Heart of the Colossus: A Steampunk Space Opera Adventure (A Holly Drake Job Book 3) by Nicole Grotepas https://amzn.to/2FLBuPq When we meet Holly Drake, she is in women's prison after having killed her abusive husband in self defense. It was a clear cut case, but due to her husband having been a cop, and corruption in the police department, Holly went to jail. ... ... ... I did get a bit of a chuckle out of Grotepas's innumeracy at one point: "I thought it was for Odeon." Holly glanced at her Druiviin friend. He seemed to be talking about the club still. From what Holly understood, Druiviin couples only had one child -- instilling into their single offspring all of the things their line cared for. It was said that their race on Yaso had reached a balanced ecological state: resources weren't over-consumed and by only having one child, they prevented a disastrous imbalance. But when a portion of their population left for the 6-moon region, the ones left behind began to have two children, to replace those who'd left. The immigrants to the 6-moons only had one child, typically. I'm not sure what she was thinking there! -- columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..