Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 08:48:57 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 74 Message-ID: References: <20240916a@crcomp.net> <92767bb42bc741f813f2a5a131e0ce5e@www.novabbs.com> <87f009da-0417-4d4a-94c6-ad6bd3a349cc@mouse-potato.com> <8b755eba95186c8af840740f46071984@www.novabbs.com> <6k8qejppvlaov3hrqv91bjd12k6tm52dco@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:48:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dd424dd1c7965ff111e715da88bbcf9c"; logging-data="2384238"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+mC1A+khUSm+4kJqUal33f" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Bz4wlPNlumbrt/HV5HDjrrrhEg0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 5167 On 9/21/2024 10:42 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > On 9/21/24 17:55, Cryptoengineer wrote: >> On 9/21/2024 4:49 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> On 9/21/24 11:11, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> Dimensional Traveler writes: >>>>> On 9/21/2024 8:01 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>> The Horny Goat writes: >>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 16:00:55 -0500, Lynn McGuire >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Australia is buying several Virgina class attack submarines from >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> USA.  One wonders what armament those subs will have. >>>>>>>>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia-class_submarine >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yup - but there's a huge difference between using a nuclear >>>>>>> reactor to >>>>>>> boil steam to drive turbines which drive the sub (which is the usual >>>>>>> propulsion method in nuclear submarines) and submarines carrying >>>>>>> nuclear weapons (usually missiles). SSBNs are almost always nuclear >>>>>>> powered but carry nuclear missiles as opposed to SSNs which refers >>>>>>> only to the propulsion system. >>>>>> >>>>>> SSNs carry Tomahawks.  Look up TLAM-N. >>>>> >>>>> Tomahawks have a much shorter range and smaller payload capacity than >>>>> the strategic missiles carried by SSBNs.  The nukes on Tomahawks are >>>>> "tactical" warheads, not city killers. >>>> >>>> Hiroshima was 15kt.   It doesn't take much. >>> >>>      That bomb was barely functional and did not begin to realize >>> its power but still was a horror unleashed on a largely wooden city >>> and totally unsuspecting citizens. Read last "Train from Hiroshima" >>> by the way it went to Nagasaki. The Nagasaki bomb functioned better >>> but was mistargeted.  Still horrible times for the populations. >>> But it has some descriptions of the hell world after the bombing >>> that are more vivid than the descriptions in the next item. >>> >>>      About Hiroshima there is a classic manga by a young man who >>> survived as a child protected by a stone wall from a blast that >>> evaporated his teacher standing by. >>>      "Gen of Hiroshima", "Barefoot Gen", and "I saw it" are some of >>> titles used but Keiji Nakazawa, recently deceased was the author. He >>> lost his whole family.  His father was very unpopular because of his >>> out-spoken pacifism and i believe that Keiji Nakazawa has a particular >>> POV.  Gen was widely translated and distributed by the anti-nuclear >>> and peace movements. >> >> Its a member of a fairly small list of books and films about the actual >> effects of nuclear war, as opposed to using one to set up a Mad Max type >> scenario. >> > > Gen of Hiroshima >  I have seen watched it once and have a file of it here. >     The manga goes on from the end of the film and > it runs to 12 volumes. Whenever I see volume 1 at the > SFPL-main I will pick it up and begin to re-read the > story, I have read it at least twice and if I had more > money and more room I would have my own set. >> Threads >> The War Game >> The Day After > >     I think I have seen this on late night TV. Not too > impressive. It might be time to tranlate "Last Train > from Hiroshima" from text into a Live Action film with the > special effects now available. > In development at 20th Century Fox. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.