Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: BOLO pervert cyclist Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:32:38 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <1nEDO.435880$VK2e.312511@fx01.ams4> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:32:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="47db5cd6d8adf37f9a6a43d2700cf876"; logging-data="3837172"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/rI6Qzn9wytYrz7ElwuNe4/PWGLkUL9+0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:1TuuNpIo5KfBFXHGcn5YhCae3s0= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4065 On 9/11/2024 10:04 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:23:31 +0200, Rolf Mantel > wrote: > >> Insurance rates are set for separately for each individual vehicle type. >> On reading carefully, you mostly find "Insurance for Tesla" went up >> catastrophically because >> 1) Tesla had a bad spare parts logistics (meaning insurance have to pay >> hire car for longer until a repiar can be done) >> 2) Few mechanics being trained to repair Tesla (meaning insurance have >> to pay hire car for longer until a repair can be done and while the >> repair is done, often the mechanic takes a lot longer than expected >> because they first have to learn about the particulars) > > Higher insurance rates might not be totally due to dealer network > problems. The drivers might also be at fault. See any of these > videos for what drivers do to their vehicles: > > > >> You might find similar stories in the next few years for the new Chinese >> makes but very unlikely for EV of standard makes with an established >> dealer network. > > Today's cars are designed to be diagnosed by a computer, not a trained > or independent mechanic. The vehicle is plugged into a computer, > which is connected via the internet to a computer operated by the > manufacturer. The diagnostics are run and the results are printed. > The mechanic just follows the instructions and replaces parts until > the problem is fixed. Little wonder repair costs have dramatically > increased. I suspect all new EV's are repaired in this manner. Bringing this around to bikes: One of the older members of our club has been on a selection of high end eBikes for several years. But on last week's ride, he was obviously struggling badly. Turned out he was on an "acoustic," not electric bike - and a very high end one, carbon fiber with fancy wheels, cables completely aero-hidden, etc. Sorry, I didn't note the brand. I asked about his eBike. He said it's in the shop with controller problems. He says the shop guys can't diagnose the specific problem, and due to Specialized's bankruptcy, the shop can't get replacement parts. I can see potential problems from putting all one's eggs in a proprietary technological basket, so to speak. (I hadn't heard that Specialized was bankrupt. Is he correct?) -- - Frank Krygowski