Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Borax Man Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: What programs do you make sure are installed on a new Linux install? Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 10:13:05 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <87bk39iufl.fsf@tilde.institute> <877cdxima3.fsf@tilde.institute> <8734olil41.fsf@tilde.institute> Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 12:13:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7fb73efd0c645aa685a48700365b0317"; logging-data="322316"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19nKnvVDD4uszWRPzsZjJEJ+gbk5HPOSoI=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:F9iSSzuFgcHA2CfBZdKT8LyO0NA= Bytes: 2522 On 2024-07-07, yeti wrote: > Borax Man writes: > >> I thought they were continuing X86 support for Debian 13. > > A while I read something about dropping X86 without a concrete date in > some mini-debconf notes. There may be decisions now about the date, but > I just do not care any more about it. Alea iacta est. > > Being a Debian user since it's pre-releases without even toy-story > names, that really hurts, but my way forward only can mean leaving > De(bi|vu)an. > I see this https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/19/debian_to_drop_x86_32/ But the Debian release notes state https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/release-notes/whats-new.en.html#supported-architectures > The following are the officially supported architectures for Debian 13: > > 32-bit PC (i386) and 64-bit PC (amd64) > 64-bit ARM (arm64) > ARM EABI (armel) > ARMv7 (EABI hard-float ABI, armhf) > little-endian MIPS (mipsel) > 64-bit little-endian MIPS (mips64el) > 64-bit little-endian PowerPC (ppc64el) > IBM System z (s390x) > > Baseline bump for 32-bit PC to i686 > > The 32-bit PC support (known as the Debian architecture i386) now requires the "long NOP" instruction. Please refer to Baseline for 32-bit PC is now i686 for more information. The release notes are also dated 2023, so I'm not sure whether The Register article superceded the release notes or not.