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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: US Election Year!
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 00:17:12 +1100
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On 12/03/2024 11:34 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 19:20:38 -0700, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: 
>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 00:10:11 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:49:10 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 20:50:18 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 13:44:10 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 20:09:09 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 07:49:42 -0700, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 11:26:34 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

<snip>

>> Politics is boring, and your tiny little vote will have on effect on
>> anything.
> 
> You find it boring. Others clearly don't! And I don't vote.
> 
>> But you can design something that works.
> 
> I'm just a hobbyist. Okay, I've had many decades of experience with
> electronics, but I'm no designer. I don't think that way.

Neither does John Larkin. He can put together circuits that work, but he 
doesn't seem to be able to design them.

He never talks about the ripping up and starting over process that is an 
integral part of real design, and he's strangely unwilling to justify 
the choices he made in the circuits that he does boast about here.

There's an element of design where you work out how something that you 
have slung together actually works, and that process often lets you 
change it so that it works better, but it's not easy to talk about - 
pretty much impossible while you are doing it, and it take an effort 
when you are writing it up after you have got it sorted out.

Natural language didn't evolve to do that kind of work, and while we can 
exploit natural language to document unusual activities, it takes ingenuity.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney