Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Predictive failures Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 16:32:17 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 60 Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 20:32:20 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="58369"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:NjIJENoDOqnP1uNXD1LQyY6WUy8= sha256:0iDJpOaGNtmGMtfzbOQ0waHGNHeP3SRNdvim17/Snr4= sha1:rfscBOPqMpXqDv1NfY5RfX4Z6jI= sha256:qQ0fjvDsYzqXHrLwSBi9dSk4Mivu/jEDBVfXa9Fhw0E= X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Bytes: 3700 "Don Y" wrote in message news:uvjn74$d54b$1@dont-email.me... > Is there a general rule of thumb for signalling the likelihood of > an "imminent" (for some value of "imminent") hardware failure? My conclusion would be no. Some of my reasons are given below. It always puzzled me how HAL could know that the AE-35 would fail in the near future, but maybe HAL had a motive for lying. Back in that era I was doing a lot of repair work when I should have been doing my homework. So I knew that there were many unrelated kinds of hardware failure. A component could fail suddenly, such as a short circuit diode, and everything would work fine after replacing it. The cause could perhaps have been a manufacturing defect, such as insufficient cooling due to poor quality assembly, but the exact real cause would never be known. A component could fail suddenly as a side effect of another failure. One short circuit output transistor and several other components could also burn up. A component could fail slowly and only become apparent when it got to the stage of causing an audible or visible effect. It would often be easy to locate the dried up electrolytic due to it having already let go of some of its contents. So I concluded that if I wanted to be sure that I could always watch my favourite TV show, we would have to have at least two TVs in the house. If it's not possible to have the equivalent of two TVs then you will want to be in a position to get the existing TV repaired or replaced as quicky as possible. My home wireless Internet system doesn't care if one access point fails, and I would not expect to be able to do anything to predict a time of failure. Experience says a dead unit has power supply issues. Usually external but could be internal. I don't think it would be possible to "watch" everything because it's rare that you can properly test a component while it's part of a working system. These days I would expect to have fun with management asking for software to be able to diagnose and report any hardware failure. Not very easy if the power supply has died. > > I suspect most would involve *relative* changes that would be > suggestive of changing conditions in the components (and not > directly related to environmental influences). > > So, perhaps, a good strategy is to just "watch" everything and > notice the sorts of changes you "typically" encounter in the hope > that something of greater magnitude would be a harbinger... >