Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 18:58:27 +0000 From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Cannot view CircuitMaker 2000 drill files in KiCad Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 11:58:43 -0700 Message-ID: <94h1dj5iuu9kmbs7sm5p1bvc7ckjkiaf4j@4ax.com> References: User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 X-Trace: sv3-r9pnCLkvi4XotyotGmPc+jJd4mNduTYJzGJenZx29A+bmjWLT0MUwVEmgelDk2hy9GXEcKCJMUTAry5!rtxkGMnIsdjPDCSojPHCq+oduum2i+iXcxILZTZhboBTMn6n+0GVXSh0FMREXcAw+U4tsOlG8LZn!UfvEzos= X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2562 On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 22:02:19 +0530, Pimpom wrote: >I've been designing and making PCBs for well over 50 years and used >CircuitMaker 2000 for about the last 25 years. It's still good enough >for most of what I do but I thought it's high time to get familiar with >a more modern software like KiCAD (I tried it out briefly several years >ago). > >I installed KiCAD again last night and tried to view Gerber files made >with CM2000. It worked except for the drill file. It threw up the error >message "Tool definition not supported". > >While searching for a solution, I came across a thread in a web forum >where the OP reported a similar problem, saying that a PCB manufacturer >rejected his CM2000 design because it had no drill file. One reply said >that manufacturers need the Excellon RS274X format whereas CM2000 uses >the RS274D version. The reply further said that the D version creates a >separate aperture file while the X version embeds aperture sizes in the >main file. > >The CM2000 manual clearly says that it uses the RS274X format, not the >D. Moreover, the drill file generator in CM2000 has the option of >embedding or not embedding the apt data. Neither option works. I simply >cannot load CM2000 drl files in KiCAD Gerber Viewer. > >Can anyone please throw some light on the matter? I think the world is going to ODB++ instead of Gerbers. We generate both and let the board house decide. There are standalone Gerber viewers.