Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 18:32:39 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <2935676af968e40e7cad204d40cafdcf@www.novabbs.org> <21028ed32d20f0eea9a754fafdb64e45@www.novabbs.org> <20240918190027.00003e4e@yahoo.com> <20240922025721.00002910@yahoo.com> <20240922103416.00004648@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 03:32:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="738632991f0ac4d58f945bdb7e0ef0ce"; logging-data="3711635"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18tosFCgx0WmsNkHvPmaMpehfAJtkQP+6I=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:R+Kdrsus2fmZ2yq3lbOqS68dgTs= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2571 On 9/24/2024 4:43 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 19:44:49 -0700, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 9/23/2024 5:45 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 10:34:16 +0300, Michael S wrote: >>> >>>> The difference between MPP and cluster is not well-defined. >>>> The difference between ccNUMA and MPP-or-cluster is crystal clear. >>> >>> If memory on other nodes were made directly addressable via hardware >>> that implemented something like a message-passing bus, suddenly the >>> difference is not so clear. >> >> I guess the idea is to try to design things that try to minimize that >> down to a bare minimum, if at all... Keep things as local as possible? > > Hence NUMA. :^)