Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 20:25:40 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 03:25:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="be8a74d1ebb79f081dc40b5f7175e5aa"; logging-data="1409673"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Qv+yAqc8TkH5Sd64jkGwD" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:2h3zcr1G0nbDFzdC3wP7tTrT9a8= Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2091 typedef void (*ptr)(); int HHH(ptr P); void Infinite_Loop() { HERE: goto HERE; } void Infinite_Recursion() { Infinite_Recursion(); } void DDD() { HHH(DDD); } int main() { HHH(Infinite_Loop); HHH(Infinite_Recursion); HHH(DDD); } Every C programmer that knows what an x86 emulator is knows that when HHH emulates the machine language of Infinite_Loop, Infinite_Recursion, and DDD that it must abort these emulations so that itself can terminate normally. When this is construed as non-halting criteria then simulating termination analyzer HHH is correct to reject these inputs as non-halting by returning 0 to its caller. Simulating termination analyzers must report on the behavior that their finite string input specifies thus HHH must report that DDD correctly emulated by HHH remains stuck in recursive simulation. Everyone else seems to be flat out dishonest or totally ignorant. At least one of my reviewers does not seem to understand that infinite recursion does not halt. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer