Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Any honest person that knows the x86 language can see... predict correctly is to say Halting, Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 07:30:47 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 14:30:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3121e7e48560b53e45601f59b50fa691"; logging-data="2282506"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18AIpuRLMineL7GjPasGTsR" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Cl/Bbxf67v37qpsYJMO2TK2iz9g= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3055 On 8/1/2024 6:34 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/31/24 11:51 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/31/2024 10:08 PM, wij wrote: >>> On Tue, 2024-07-30 at 18:50 -0500, olcott wrote: >>>> >>>> It is not supposed to be a general solution to the halting problem. >>>> it only shows how the "impossible" input is correctly determined >>>> to be non halting. >>>> >>> >>> But how do you determine it is non-halting? >>> >>> As I know you are even unable to define what 'halt' mean !!! >>> >> I have done this thousands of times and after someone >> has read these thousands of times they say that I never >> said it once. >> >> void DDD() >> { >>    HHH(DDD); >>    return; >> } >> >> int main() >> { >>    HHH(DDD); >> } >> >> If DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly >> reach its return instruction then it never halts. >> >> > > But only *IF*  HHH *DOES* correctly emulate its input, which means it > can't abort its emulation, *No stupid it has never meant that* *simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D* *until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never* *stop running unless aborted* -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer