Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Who here understands that the last paragraph is Necessarily true? Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:59:12 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <9c04727b16adcbc4a480b6fa3ad84696e0f332a5@i2pn2.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:59:12 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3370232"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2316 Lines: 31 Am Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:26:22 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 7/15/2024 3:23 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-07-14 14:38:31 +0000, olcott said: >>> On 7/14/2024 3:09 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2024-07-13 20:15:56 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> int main() >>>>> { >>>>>    HHH(Infinite_Loop); HHH(Infinite_Recursion); >>>>>    HHH(DDD); >>>>> } >>>>> Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non termination of HHH >>>>> necessarily specifies non-halting behavior or it would never need to >>>>> be aborted. >>>> Everyone understands that DDD specifies a halting behaviour if >>>> HHH(DDD) does, >>> *You can comprehend this is a truism or fail to* *comprehend it >>> disagreement is necessarily incorrect* Any input that must be aborted >>> to prevent the non termination of HHH necessarily specifies >>> non-halting behavior or it would never need to be aborted. >> >> That the input is aborted does not mean that the input must be aborted. > Weasel words. This is an axiom: > Input XXX must be aborted to prevent the non-termination of HHH. Only if it does not terminate by itself. >> And if the input specifies that its input is aborted then the behaviour >> is not non-terminating. -- Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:52:17 -0500 schrieb olcott: Objectively I am a genius.