Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: is Vax addressing sane today Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2024 21:48:12 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien Lines: 32 Message-ID: <2024Oct4.234812@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> References: <2024Oct3.085754@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Oct4.170717@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> Injection-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2024 00:18:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4b486aea911af6f0cec786c98c1ac92e"; logging-data="405738"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19IYtMOonZjTjiROZVxArbA" Cancel-Lock: sha1:SJUkJJSHAmslk5mTkqTeXv3FE1s= X-newsreader: xrn 10.11 Bytes: 2463 Thomas Koenig writes: >Anton Ertl schrieb: > >> Alpha suffered before. The 21264 was late, and did not keep up in the >> clock race. > >https://www.star.bnl.gov/public/daq/HARDWARE/21264_data_sheet.pdf >gives the clock rate as varying between 466 and 600 MHz, and >Wikipedia gives the clock frequency of the Pentium Pro as between >150 and 200 MHz. The Pentium II Overdrive, according to Wikipedia, >had up to 333 MHz. > >Is this information wrong? No, but it misses context: The Pentium Pro was available in late 1995. The 21264 was officially available in 1998, but when we ordered a machine with a 500MHz 21264 (and needed it delivered before the end of the year for budget reasons), they delivered a machine with a 21164a, and then in the next year upgraded it to the 21264 (which probably meant replacing the motherboard, not just the CPU package). Intel released a 450MHz Pentium II in 1998, and the 500MHz Pentium III on February 28, 1999. AMD released the 600MHz Athlon in June 23, 1999, and won the GHz race with the 1000MHz Athlon in March 6, 2000, with Intel's Pentium III following in March 8. Meanwhile, the Alphas could not keep up in MHz numbers, but I have no firm dates, only memories from that time. - anton -- 'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.' Mitch Alsup,