Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Moebius Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: how Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 16:03:32 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <4f78b5b4-9a08-408f-8732-9b5a622cb559@att.net> <1OhEiVGoZeYKAlHf40u0M-DGu74@jntp> <65e48016-ecea-4832-bcdb-a5e3d94a66cd@att.net> <52y9XpKJ6QVz6e8s5Hvt4WK1nmE@jntp> <04ac4aa5-f508-40e1-b14f-0fa9883ac4c0@att.net> <-YYjghxYEV4-kYQzyEEkdPOmx9g@jntp> Reply-To: invalid@example.invalid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 16:03:33 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dee26c3739d901eea4106eae81a2e4df"; logging-data="524613"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ZmqvElkce2ZeiY8W38BEq" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:LBpYTBf530UcZmImE8LbA+Msno8= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: de-DE Bytes: 1987 Am 10.06.2024 um 15:33 schrieb WM: > Le 08/06/2024 à 20:16, Jim Burns a écrit : >> On 6/8/2024 8:42 AM, WM wrote: > >>> If j ∈ Defble then j^j^j ∈ Defble. >>> Nevertheless j^j^j^j^j is finite, but there are ℵo undefinable >>> natural numbers. >> >> No. > > Then define natural numbers with [...] no undefinable successors. 0 is the smallest natural number with no undefinable successors (after all, all of its ℵo "successors" are "definable", since all natural numbers are "definable").