Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Ben agrees that Sipser approved criteria is met Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:04:09 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <87jzidm83f.fsf@bsb.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:04:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1458784"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2624 Lines: 18 Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 07:40:57 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 6/28/2024 3:30 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-06-27 16:56:56 +0000, olcott said: > Deciders are always asked a yes/no question of their > inputs in their own native language. Yes, and the question here is „Does the input halt?” and not „Do I simulate this to halt?”. >>> Instead everyone here expects that the halt decider must map >>> to the English description of what the authors of textbooks >>> expect it to map to. Naturally. Why should it not work as defined. > Everyone that states an opinion says that the decider > must go by the textbook definitions of the problem thus > not the problem instance actually encoded by the input. That IS the instance encoded by the input. We call H with DDD, not H with H(DDD).