Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: transreductionist Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Best Practice Virtual Environment Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:31:09 -0400 Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <20241005222733.fd60f7e672e849aa63c8b360@fam-goebel.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de RPKdZcoVA7vIy0t1Dw34Ow03ZpIK6ZAEnou9wT5PxAqg== Cancel-Lock: sha1:bmNFLAqgH5vg5nYOlpYULonxyD4= sha256:N8Yo3qm8Z9hqN+WtQ0ArDNw11+fCEN1ba5JJXlHZr+A= Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; dkim=pass reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key" header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=FfR7ysPR; dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'pip': 0.04; 'repository': 0.05; 'modules': 0.07; 'scripts.': 0.07; 'sun,': 0.07; 'tests': 0.07; 'that?': 0.07; '+0200': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'debian': 0.09; 'email addr:python.org>': 0.09; 'environments': 0.09; 'gpg': 0.09; 'install,': 0.09; 'karsten': 0.09; 'schrieb': 0.09; '>': 0.14; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.14; 'url:mailman': 0.15; '(even': 0.16; '1713': 0.16; '2024': 0.16; 'cleanly': 0.16; 'hilbert': 0.16; 'hint': 0.16; 'python3': 0.16; 'run,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'problem': 0.16; 'installing': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'sat,': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'url- ip:188.166.95.178/32': 0.25; 'url-ip:188.166.95/24': 0.25; 'url:listinfo': 0.25; 'cc:2**0': 0.25; 'url-ip:188.166/16': 0.25; 'seems': 0.26; 'else': 0.27; 'email addr:python.org>': 0.28; 'environment': 0.29; 'packages': 0.31; 'url-ip:188/8': 0.31; "doesn't": 0.32; 'python-list': 0.32; 'right,': 0.32; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.32; 'but': 0.32; 'there': 0.33; 'someone': 0.34; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'runs': 0.35; 'from:addr:gmail.com': 0.35; 'way': 0.38; 'means': 0.38; 'single': 0.39; 'handle': 0.39; 'use': 0.39; 'define': 0.40; 'skip:o 10': 0.61; 'skip:b 10': 0.63; 'down': 0.64; 'lock': 0.64; 'required': 0.65; 'let': 0.66; 'know.': 0.68; 'virtual': 0.71; 'skip:* 10': 0.71; 'manage': 0.73; 'email name:<python-list': 0.84; 'subject:Virtual': 0.84; 'convenience': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1728235880; x=1728840680; darn=python.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=vmleGdJuAXFfmyfKyXqC0I/kjpFryIgX6ry5MGLwGt8=; b=FfR7ysPRxsby2yfjHAY8wIMG+b7xjTYWdCkjLQ93HC1t50zS22Jsndq7WOzhy5MOoG p4S4ObgMBIXnv0Uw0CyXpGW37rc6g4/ulNbRUk0ZF4fsSXN69vyG8lOhqDG46WpvW732 t6y5DT6NcpXdNIJeG0A9Ujgtbrwm7j0ZOxBl7C/p1wijTdPfeId4j5c990/TRaEa0GBf 3INM0D+M6rmT5mhDug99P1aNcPSI6A7KohmgHJ8XSgWb9gew8GCf1cGH1y0UztlaUMkM bPcUnbyYDC2tc0u508lAJypX22FMTtq3YdWSCi71eaMe0WdInULb5CksBPlHgP8MtSjI 02aQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1728235880; x=1728840680; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=vmleGdJuAXFfmyfKyXqC0I/kjpFryIgX6ry5MGLwGt8=; b=HffJqRPpVQ9UsyXchMq7/IgE/Xy2fjjYFCvmjgSjYlyWuVTpiClLOKhmYJPcrx4xB3 Mfr4PwUbaffKT6odhEbBNK+2ve0okCPRhlAFyzLXP9KNgbrwYyL3C1sglxyWRc9To8ck 4zlnoUoG35ZMnw79aI0BXEnNZgzK4URsZI6y1APpH2UniCIt6+WvcEZiXph970JQuewL xW8J1/8H4ZiSYCnqEq7hnNhLJsbLYfvAuoGqPDsDylKYmb/FdflNLCTr53Iq551wPXfV 8Gqpx+Sw/Xqf2mb3mpw10ymNDCs1dKp/M1olR7cEOZW3JXBMl4pbYyc48EsgxFNmr4f0 kI0g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy6YcWLoJtVrjKFkPRRyuXfsr9/hcoe4emVRWr4LQQ6daBepO9b yXAdgmCrxHPB0k4m7tfI7GUVjBa88RMgcHbYPj4sKI3zfWDZaG61Ebk3iZiqGGJr8fOPs202ji4 mClanPdXrWJ9fQmoFrvjRFhk6T3dToQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGzcTH/EFtwMk5pHuLK1ZoOnL22IoYiaPGotRJr864HiZAxYMCSRY8Ci3ywueHczjDSCXAp0nZxck7n2+gNnsA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6871:889:b0:277:d9f6:26f6 with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-287c1da9f98mr5549281fac.12.1728235879950; Sun, 06 Oct 2024 10:31:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.39 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <20241005222733.fd60f7e672e849aa63c8b360@fam-goebel.de> Bytes: 7345 byproduct.toml On Sun, Oct 6, 2024, 13:30 transreductionist wrote: > This is how we handle this problem at a large organization. > > In the repository there are a number of build scripts. For convenience we > use poetry (poetry.toml) to manage the virtual environment. A > pyproduct.toml is used to define dependencies, how tests are run, the > linter config, etc. > > So there are scripts for poetry lock, poetry install, and whatever else is > needed. > > A user pulls down the repository and runs > 1. poetry lock > 2. poetry install > And they have their environment with the proper dependencies. > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2024, 09:47 Karsten Hilbert via Python-list < > python-list@python.org> wrote: > >> Am Sun, Oct 06, 2024 at 12:21:09AM +0200 schrieb Karsten Hilbert via >> Python-list: >> >> > Am Sat, Oct 05, 2024 at 10:27:33PM +0200 schrieb Ulrich Goebel via >> Python-list: >> > >> > > Debian (or even Python3 itself) doesn't allow to pip install required >> packages system wide, so I have to use virtual environments even there. But >> is it right, that I have to do that for every single user? >> > > >> > > Can someone give me a hint to find an howto for that? >> > >> > If you do find how to cleanly install non-packaged modules >> > in a system-wide way (even if that means installing every >> > application into its own *system-wide* venv) - do let me >> > know. >> >> It seems dh-virtualenv is one way to do it. On Debian. >> >> Karsten >> -- >> GPG 40BE 5B0E C98E 1713 AFA6 5BC0 3BEA AC80 7D4F C89B >> -- >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >> >