Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: I dare to relativists to explain local time: =?UTF-8?B?dC12eC9jwrI=?= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 22:16:12 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <1e0cdddca00fbd5c020523a0f244d79f@www.novabbs.com> References: <8dc9a6eb5ee097da5239175cb7833cd6@www.novabbs.com> <vdokav$6m87$1@dont-email.me> <d885ef8307d7eb48a4157a4e5eb97ab6@www.novabbs.com> <vdpbaq$alks$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="595483"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="OjDMvaaXMeeN/7kNOPQl+dWI+zbnIp3mGAHMVhZ2e/A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 26080b4f8b9f153eb24ebbc1b47c4c36ee247939 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$sv5KCD/s2oQwea.yTZdduOwZg//HL9gE2Cev4tVG1VlAblzploDji Bytes: 4356 Lines: 110 On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 18:17:06 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > Den 04.10.2024 15:34, skrev rhertz: <snip> -------------------------------------------------------- > A coordinate transform is: > t' = at + bx > x' = ct + dx > > Do you think that the term "b" has another EXPLANATION, > EITHER WITH A PHYSICAL MEANING OR EVEN A METAPHYSICAL ONE, > than the terms a, c and d? ------------------------------------------------------- https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:On_the_Principle_of_Doppler Here are the linear transforms that Voigt managed: VOIGT'S LINEAR TRANSFORMS HYPOTHESIS (Equations 2: x by ξ = xm₁ + yn₁ + zp₁ - αt y by η = xm₂ + yn₂ + zp₂ - βt z by ζ = xm₃ + yn₃ + zp₃ - γt t by τ = t - (ax + by + cz) ARE YOU SO STUPID THAT CONFOUND INITIAL HYPOTHESIS WITH RESULTS? This is the original Voigt's LOCAL TIME. Learn it for once, idiot. τ = t - χ/ω² (x α₁ + y β₁ + z γ₁) , Equation 13 Voigt used full 3D for waves propagation, hence the components x,y,z. ------------------------------------------------------------- <snip> > There is no "local time" in SR. ARE YOU BECOME, FINALLY, FULL RETARDED?? SHAME ON YOU! This is the result of Einstein's plagiarism of Voigt and Lorentz, page 7 of the 1921 English translation: τ = Φ(v) β (t - vx/c²) ; Φ(v) = 1 and β is the current γ factor. AND THAT IS THE INFAMOUS LORENTZ LOCAL TIME! Really, you are becoming more and more stupid with the years! ------------------------------------------------------------ IT COMES DIRECTLY FROM 1904 LORENTZ PAPER: H.A. Lorentz, Electromagnetic phenomena in a system moving with any velocity smaller than that of light 1904 ORIGINAL LORENTZ TRANSFORMS x' = β x ; Lorentz Eq. 4 t' = t/β - β vx/c² ; Lorentz Eq. 5 (HERE IS LOCAL TIME WITH ETHER) Making x = X - vt (Einstein did that, to get rid of ether) t' = β (t - vX/c²) x' = β (X - vt) THE SAME CRAP THAT EINSTEIN USED ONE YEAR LATER. ------------------------------------------------------------ > > You can see what Lorentz meant by "local time" in chapter 3 here: > > https://paulba.no/div/LTorigin.pdf > > Quote: > "Lorentz called the t' coordinate ’local time’, as opposed to > the t coordinate which was the ’absolute time’ inherited from Newton. > But note that this ’local time’ is what it shown by local clocks, > and it is the ’local time’ that can be measured. > The ’absolute time’ t is unobservable." > > Only an idiot would call a term in a coordinate transform "local time". > What is the term vt? "Local position"? > > And only an idiot would claim that all physicists born after 1900 > are frauds. > > Don't you agree, Richard? :-D ------------------------------------------------------------- Only a blind, deaf and stupid relativist like you deny WRITTEN HISTORY! Here is what Lorentz wrote about "local time" in his 1904 paper (p.813): ************************************ "The variabie t' may be called the "local time"; indeed, tor k = 1, 1 = 1 it becomes identical with what I have formerly understood by this name," *********************************** DID YOU GET IT, IGNORANT? GTFO!