Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after, Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:53:23 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <6399d56a9f97ea65d20025c9c9f12a92@www.novabbs.com> References: <61eaf4a368cca7b9a7dc0b0f3bf8f3ee@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2324941"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="hWiuCAeR3KEZYJfTvV11n0qrRi6oqW/zjvEZQQGun9A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: f685b96694175b2ad43ead343ead0a9c0082fe88 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$jheWxIWSqXm0N/5nMvISge8caQpKlNWeoPkbQkblnkHWcVGdZVB5W Bytes: 4626 Lines: 88 Paul: ****************************************************************************** Note that τ₁ and τ₀ are invariant proper times. They are real, there is nothing apparent about them. dτ₁/dτ₀ = (1 + 4.4647⋅10⁻¹⁰), so C₁ appear to run faster than C₀. ************************************************************************************ APPEAR? You are using my expressions 100%: APPEAR; IS PERCEIVED TO BE; .... You are a funny guy. Paul: ****************************************************************************** > At ANY CASE, there IS NO experimental proof about any of these two > cases, because the relativity of the pseudoscience that relativity is, > prevents THAT ANY LOCAL MEASURE ONBOARD can be remotely measured from > ANY ground station. A GPS satellite sends the exact information of where it is and what its clock show to the receivers. That is the principle of the GPS. And the ground stations which are tracking each satellite for hours each day can measure the position of satellites, and what their clocks show. This way they can upload the correction data to the satellites so their clocks are kept in sync within few ns. This is necessary for the GPS to work, which it does, even if it according to you is impossible. ********************************************************************************** The corrections ARE NECESSARY TWICE A DAY in order to correct every onboard atomic clock, so the SLIPS due to flight perturbations, cosmic and EM radiation PLUS natural short-term instabilities on each one. You should know better about short-term jumps in ANY ATOMIC CLOCK, which (if not corrected) would make each clock frequency randomly drift from the others. And, as a digital clock is a counter, those instabilities ACCUMULATE. So, from Earth, corrections are made constantly to have the entire network in sync all the time. Paul: ****************************************************************************** Such a GPS satellite was in orbit 1977 https://paulba.no/paper/Initial_results_of_GPS_satellite_1977.pdf It confirmed GR's prediction. *********************************************************************************** WERE YOU THERE WITNESSING THAT CRAPPY TEST? NO! YOU JUST BELIEVE IT. Paul: ****************************************************************************** How would you store analog data? As a voltage in a capacitor? Would that keep the the theory pure? ************************************************************************************ Before high speed digital counters (started around 1961, at 10 Mhz top), there were analog computers for more than 60 years (since 1900). HUGE and very costly ANALOG COMPUTERS, capable of iterations and recursion. Data was stored in accurate mechanical springs, LIKE the ones used in pocket and wristwatches TO STORE DATA, plus mechanical latches. You REALLY need to read about history of science, relativistic viking. Do you pretend TO TELL EVERYONE HERE that, before digital counters, to believe in relativity was an ACT OF FAITH for 50 years? You are confirming that relativists are really a bunch of retarded. Probably, you and them evolved from Neardenthal sub-humans, that did mate with some Cro-magnon people. And that happened in continental Europe, you know? In the forests there, the two species mated. Did you verify your DNA, to trace broken links? Because that could explain a lot, Paul.