Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: another hint of quantum consciousness Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 13:19:58 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 88 Message-ID: References: <0s9bej1bhklummnn5iduadn94uvvne5k26@4ax.com> <31kbejpg6dos3fdm81oq42a4rgcenu4lk1@4ax.com> Injection-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 17:20:00 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="34524"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:It5sRyaeN6BAlK+dKAmHcPNfn9o= sha256:UhNwYGGAmCWSKhBrXMBdwS/QreISEa4tKkqPWRhkGZs= sha1:SXYx7mt+TXkeeFpZs3xOxo+VZ9A= sha256:rd2zntqXNUi4huzCeIu5o0N9qzM0Ch4YXLuve7IPAQ8= X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Bytes: 4986 "john larkin" wrote in message news:pc1eej9v5j8i25qm38l4jffodn7eb4c2f6@4ax.com... > On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 23:28:40 -0400, "Edward Rawde" > wrote: > >>"john larkin" wrote in message news:kaicejdhq0cudpivno5qmtes8al3tu8hje@4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 17:04:32 -0400, "Edward Rawde" >>> wrote: >>> >>>>"john larkin" wrote in message news:31kbejpg6dos3fdm81oq42a4rgcenu4lk1@4ax.com... >>>>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 19:36:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On 9/14/24 17:13, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://scitechdaily.com/groundbreaking-study-affirms-quantum-basis-for-consciousness-a-paradigm-shift-in-understanding-human-nature/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting way to define consciousness, the thing that goes away when >>>>>>> an a general anesthetic is applied. That can be quantified. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I paraphrase: "Since we don't know how it works, it must be quantum". >>>>> >>>>> Or, more conventionally, "It can't be quantum because QM only works at >>>>> liquid helium temperatures." >>>>> >>>>>>That's it then: Quantum-something is merely religion. The god of the >>>>>>gaps. >>>>>> >>>>>>There's a lot of quantum nonsense about. This is just one example. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, explain how we can name one image out of maybe a million stored >>>>> images, in a fraction of a second. >>>> >>>>In a way which is similar to the way this does it. >>>>https://www.google.com/search?&q=eiffel+tower&udm=2 >>>>Just in reverse. >>>>So choose any of the above images and save it. >>>>Now go here >>>>https://images.google.com/ >>>>And upload the image and see how long it takes for the words "eiffel tower" to appear. >>>> >>>>Also it's possible you might not know the correct spelling. >>>>https://www.google.com/search?&q=ifle+tower&udm=2 >> >>Does the lack of response here mean that you agree that I provided a valid explanation of how >>"we can name one image out of maybe a million stored images, in a fraction of a second." ? >> >>No-one is suggesting that Google does it exactly the same way the human brain does >>but you asked for an explanation of how it is possible. >> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Face and voice recognition are similarly amazing. >>>> >>>>But it is becoming much easier to do them without a human brain as time goes by. >>>> >>> >>> Of course, the machines and the code that do google's image matching >>> were designed by people. >>> >> >>You mean like >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo_Zero >>is just code so all it can do is something like >>if {player makes this move} then {respond with that move} ? >> >>If you're going to stick with the idea that something designed people then what designed the thing which designed people and what >>designed the thing which designed the thing which designed people? >> >>What are you going to say when a thing designed by people becomes able to design electronic circuits better than you can? >> >> >> > > I check up now and then on FLUX.AI, just for fun. I've never used it. I have a general dislike of "sign up with Google" etc and pay a monthly subscription if you want anything worth using. My last interaction with schematic/pcb software a few weeks ago was getting some Protel99SE files into KiCad. That and simulating an LTC4267-3 circuit in LTSpice. > > A while back they were looking to hire a bunch of full-stack software > types and one hardware intern. >