Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: What I told ChatGPT is essentially identical to the first page of my paper Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:42:25 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <6fa1774ec1e4b13035be3eab85555b609b301d69@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:42:25 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b369f0f2d7fece35c41a3b04a99b5ee3"; logging-data="632844"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19RO8mxJlXE8i97rWNTPmg0" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:e2RGTd3GU84YtXhpSEvkwBshyZw= In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241020-4, 10/20/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2920 On 10/20/2024 4:41 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 10/20/24 4:23 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 10/20/2024 2:13 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 10/20/24 1:33 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> This is the only new material that sums up the >>>> essence of what a simulating termination analyzer is. >>>> >>>> Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until >>>> it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When >>>> HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation >>>> and returns 0. >>> >>> But for the pattern that it detects to be correct, it must be that >>> all input that exhibit that pattern must never halt when run. >>> >> >> If your try to get away with telling ChatGPT that it >> will explain your error in great detail as it already >> does when I brought that up. >> >> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e >> > > Righr, you LIED tl Chat GPT about it, and being an AI, it is dumb enough > to believe it. > > Note, I DID tell that to Chat GPT, and it agrees that DDD, when the > criteria is what does DDD actually do, which is what the question MUST > be about to be about the Termination or Halting problem, then DDD WILL > HALT since HHH(DDD) will return 0 to it. > > So, your claims are just proven to be lies. Could it be correct for HHH(DDD) to report on the behavior of the directly executed DDD()? https://chatgpt.com/share/67158680-735c-8011-b474-76ff062ed411 The cut-and-paste has bad formatting so you have to run this yourself. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer