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From: joes
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: The actual truth is that ... industry standard stipulative
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 18:09:14 -0000 (UTC)
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Am Wed, 16 Oct 2024 12:42:43 -0500 schrieb olcott:
> On 10/16/2024 12:24 PM, joes wrote:
>> Am Wed, 16 Oct 2024 12:13:12 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 10/16/2024 3:05 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-10-16 03:52:00 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>> On 10/15/2024 9:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/15/24 8:39 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 4:58 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>> Am Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:12:37 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2024 6:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/24 12:05 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2024 6:21 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> But, you claim to be working on that Halting Problem,
>>>>>>>>> I quit claiming this many messages ago and you didn't bother to
>>>>>>>>> notice.
>>>>>>>> Can you please give the date and time? Did you also explicitly
>>>>>>>> disclaim it or just silently leave it out?
>>>>>>> Even people of low intelligence that are not trying to be as
>>>>>>> disagreeable as possible would be able to notice that a specified
>>>>>>> C function is not a Turing machine.
>>>>>> But it needs to be computationally equivalent to one to ask about
>>>>>> Termination.
>>>>> A termination analyzer need not be a Turing computable function.
>>>> There is no known way to construct one that isn't. No computer can
>>>> execute a function that is not Turing computable.
>>> In other words you think that functions that rely on global data such
>>> that they are not a pure function of their inputs are A OK?
>> Says the one with an if(Root).
>> Apart from that, purity has nothing to do with computability.
> Quite a few experts agree that the purity of a function ensures its
> computability. It was like pulling teeth to get this out of them. It was
> like the computer science experts desperately wanted to remain totally
> ignorant of mapping computer science to software engineering.
Decide_Halting() is not pure.
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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.