Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Python (was Re: I did not inhale) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:28:35 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <20240830082835.000008fa@gmail.com> References: <20240815182717.189@kylheku.com> <20240826083330.00004760@gmail.com> <20240826155113.000005ba@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 17:28:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8d3152d7e4a09de5960c07a932fb7c3b"; logging-data="575010"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/2eh2MElk3Rmjv6sDGfR5esbN8qnRd93M=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:LTwtc6tyIA+xhCX19mz4UabgjlI= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 3282 On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 11:38:05 +0200 David Brown wrote: > Getting worked up about the way Python blocking works is about as > productive as getting worked up about the way English language > spelling works. There are countless other more useful ways to spend > your time - and certainly many more enjoyable ways. Some people actually enjoy arguing on the Internet, y'know. > When there are a number of smart, experienced and educated people > involved in the decisions, "obvious stupidities" are extremely > unlikely. That's the point of involving multiple people and gathering > opinions from many in the field. You may consider it as "unlikely" as you wish, but the fact is that literal whitespace has been considered Obviously Stupid in the computer- programming world for so long that it was the subject of a joke re: JCL in "Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal," published in 1983. That's not to say that "considered Obviously Stupid" is the same thing as "objectively wrong" - but if your argument is that all of this is on equal footing as Just Opinions, discounting decades of established opinion across the industry in preference to the opinions of the subset of Python developers & advocates who believe in literal whitespace as Unambiguously Good rather gives the lie to that.