Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: 1972 Legnano in the news Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 07:59:34 -0600 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <8ncvijlu04i6u3ujr5454a6t4sciab6pud@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 14:59:34 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="687a910573c57c302658d836438e5e6f"; logging-data="1070361"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+x3x7N87a8m1m5nVgzbejc" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:KWUccc2j7Nr9Rts7BARSj4Y1fNI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3744 On 11/10/2024 10:19 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 11/10/2024 10:23 PM, John B. wrote: >> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:05:15 -0600, AMuzi >> wrote: >> >>> What proportion of your own lifetime bicycle riding was >>> under a brain bucket? >> >> I honestly don't know as I spent much of my military >> career "overseas" >> where we were somewhat protected from local laws, if for >> no other >> reason then that few of the local police spoke English :-) >> Then when I >> retired I went back overseas to work and riding a bicycle >> on your >> break was sort of "blah" and money was plentiful so take a >> taxi :-) > > I don't think that was honest at all. What were the years > you did your bicycle riding? I'd assume most were before > 1980. Bike helmets (other than the rare racer's leather > strap kind) were almost nonexistent until 1980. > >> Perhaps that is a solution. A state law that for anyone >> killed or >> injured while riding a bicycle without a helmet any >> insurance policy >> for medical care and/or death shall be deemed to be null >> and void. > > Would that apply to _all_ victims of brain injury? Let's > recall that in the U.S., bicyclists comprise less than one > percent of fatal brain injuries. For serious but not fatal > brain injuries, the percentages probably aren't much different. > > Falls when walking around the home are one of the top causes > of serious brain injuries. Riding in automobiles is also a > big cause, as are assaults. Bicycling is rarely mentioned as > a source in articles listing causes. See https:// > www.myshepherdconnection.org/abi/Introduction-to-Brain- > Injury/Statistics-and-Causes as an example. > > And don't think that bicyclists are a significant portion of > the "falls" or "motor vehicle" categories. Here's a more > detailed table that deals with total (not just TBI) > fatalities. Note what a tiny portion bicyclists make up. > https://probablyhelpful.com/injury_death.htm > > It's a propaganda generated myth that riding a bike is > likely to cause serious brain injury. > In the morning news, another tragic sans-helmet death: https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/local/nw-indiana-hunter-dies-in-tree-stand-fall -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971