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On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 4:57:08 +0000, ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 4:37:18 +0000, rhertz wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 3:54:10 +0000, ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 0:48:23 +0000, gharnagel wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Given than dielectric coatings don't work here, a realistic reflection
>>> coefficient for aluminum foil would be around 0.85 or so, so you won't
>>> have a great build-up of power level inside your ball.
>>>
>>> The system will reach steady-state after a relatively short period of
>>> time. If 5 watts is pumped in, the ball will radiate 5 watts of energy
>>> at steady state. The emissivity will affect the final temperature that
>>> the ball will reach, but figures like 167650K for 0.001" walls are
>>> completely unrealistic numbers. The accumulated warmth should probably
>>> be detectable by a person with sensitive fingers.
>>>
>>> Certainly you won't need to wait 72 hours to get your negative results.
>>> Most of the time will be spent pumping down your high-vacuum system,
>>> evaporating your "getter" to tie up the last bits of gas, etc.
>>
>> You refuse to accept an elementary fact, clearly stated by me in this
>> thread. Why? Maybe because you're not the EE/physicist that you claim to
>> be and you're just an amateur playing with science as a hobby.
>>
>> Get this for once:
>>
>> THE SYSTEM WILL NEVER REACH INTERNAL EQUILIBRIUM!
>
> I said "steady-state", not equilibrium.
>
>> That is IMPOSSIBLE because I'd be pumping ENERGY non-stop, forever if
>> necessary. Can you get this, please?
>
> Of course I understand that.
> What you don't seem to understand is the distinction between steady-
> state and equilibrium. Look it up.
>
>> THERE IS NO AMPLIFICATION OF LASER POWER, AND NEVER WAS MEANT TO HAPPEN.
>
> Of course not. Especially with a reflection coefficient of around
> 0.85 or so.
>
>> WHAT HAPPEN IS A CONTINUOUS FEED OF ENERGY!. If you CAN'T SEE IT, then
>> substitute the 5W laser by a hose POURING WATER INSIDE THE CAVITY. Some
>> water falls out, but most remain UNTIL THE CAVITY IS FULL OF IT.
>>
>> When will it happen with the water analogy? Don't know/don't care.
>
> Steady-state, not equilibrium.
>
>> The only reason by which I used three days to fill the cavity up is
>> because A LONGER PERIOD would accumulate much more perturbations and
>> external interferences, complicating the statistical processing of the
>> electrical signal that IS LINEARLY PROPORTIONAL to the accumulation of
>> energy inside the cavity.
>
> What accumulation? The shell gradually rises in temperature until
> the energy losses equals the energy input. How long this takes to
> happen depends on the mass of the shell. For a thin shell, it won't
> take long. For a thick shell, it could be a while. But you were
> arguing on the basis of aluminum foil thickness, a few grams of
> material.
>
>> If you REFUSE to understand this, I advise you to go back to college or
>> high school, where you could re-learn elementary logic and arithmetic.
>>
>> Say no more.
>
> You are arguing from a position of ignorance here. Sorry.




Prokaryotic, I wasn't answering to you but to gharnagel!

Don't know how I did that mistake. My apologies.