Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: 2N=E Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 22:08:46 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <55737882c19ea6d576a04e71473a1cd87a15bb7b@i2pn2.org> References: <8b31df46-1361-4dd1-aed3-1f42039af960@att.net> <84c1bb5d-67db-4d21-918a-f86cd1f815c5@att.net> <282974aaed1fcb8eae0c5d69ffb6ba39a1909b64@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 03:08:47 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="999091"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2944 Lines: 27 On 11/4/24 12:24 PM, WM wrote: > On 04.11.2024 13:26, Richard Damon wrote: > >> Yes, we know if you will double them again, as we started with the >> assumption that we double ALL the number, and any even number will be >> reached from doubling the number that is one half of it and will be >> doubled again. > > Please mark the sentence which you suspect to be wrong: > > - All natural numbers exist. > - The even numbers have only half of the substance(*) of the integers. Not a valid statement, as half of infinity is still infinity. > - Multiplication of all elements of a set does not change the substance. > > (*) For every interval (0, 2n] the number E of even natnumbers is half > of the number N of natnumbers: E/N = 1/2. For (0, oo] we obtain the > limit of the sequence 1/2, 1/2, 1/2, ... which is 1/2. This is the ratio > of the substances or, as Cantor called it, the reality. In other words, your logic can only deal with finite subsets of the infinite set, and thus isn't a system that can handle actual infinity. > > Regards, WM