Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: -hh Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,comp.os.linux.advocacy,sac.politics,talk.politics.guns Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 22:12:52 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <5al3kj5frdjhaff0b04u0bu9j9j1096uo7@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com> <4eb4kjlov048gqk0eelgv8bvnms1e963e3@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 04:12:54 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b5c25c692394586a99af8727bad5c88e"; logging-data="2199821"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18hJOct+DEXXE0T5grNm+GcpKMNgVINOAs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:AIbFqiO/jYat9ZfVuQL5SFvo8sU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3067 On 11/23/24 3:18 PM, chrisv wrote: > Alan wrote: >> Joel wrote: >>> Alan wrote: >>>> Joel wrote: >>>>> Apple is the enemy, to be blunt. >>>> >>>> In what sense? >>>> Who or what are the the enemy OF? >>> >>> People who like getting value for money. > > They are a fine value, for some fraction of the market. > >> The very fact that Apple's customer loyalty is absolutely outstanding >> suggests that people think they offer excellent value for money. > > Some idiots just don't "get" the need for choice, and that all > products that remain viable in a market are, by definition, the "best > value" for some fraction the market. Agreed. By a 'some fraction of the market' metric, marketshare shows that on the desktop, Apple provides a healthy amount of choice (and value) versus Microsoft. Its been years since I've even bothered to look these up: Worldwide marketshares of desktop OSs is 73% Win - 16% Mac (remaining 10% is Chrome+Linux+Unknown, roughly evenly split). Similarly, for USA, its 62% Win - 25% Mac. Source: > That includes desktop Linux, of course. Pedantically sure, but at just 4% (& dropped to 4th place overall), desktop Linux is pragmatically almost irrelevant. -hh