Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Pancho Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi Subject: Re: What do I need to go with a Pi 4 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 20:41:24 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 21:41:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6a4bad9f48ebe91c3272979754436624"; logging-data="498238"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/ug5ZSUYiv+TcSgCSdPegFVbdmfBatavs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Z4B2Yn2yJhDPEYksJgrHg8dfIHE= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2381 On 15/04/2024 15:13, druck wrote: > On 14/04/2024 20:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 14/04/2024 19:51, druck wrote: >>> The Pi 4B will definitely throttle with only a ventilated case if it >>> is anything other than sitting idle all the time. >>> >> I am not interested in proof by assertion >> I had mine up to 130% on 'top' and it never made more than 76°C > > So you were only using 1 and a bit cores, hardly taxing it. > >>> I don't see the point of letting it throttling when an inexpensive >>> fan will keep it at full speed under any load. >>> >> I question that it will in fact throttle. > > If you do something which uses multiple cores it will. > >> Like so much 'everybody knows'  when you look at it it is in fact >> 'everyone believes because people selling fans told them so. > > I'm telling you so, and I'm not selling you a fan, although I do have a > bridge going spare if you don't believe that. > I don't know what case you are using, but I have tested my geekworm aluminium passive case. It does not throttle using: stress-ng --cpu 4 Calcs suggest it might throttle on the hottest day of the year, but not normally.