Path: ...!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 00:46:02 +0000 Subject: Re: What's the difference From: danmin@danminart-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Danart) Newsgroups: misc.news.internet.discuss Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: newsSync 669965260 References: <2537bdc9-979c-8370-5e61-f9cfca43ffef@example.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 00:46:02 +0000 Lines: 115 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-R7MFWI3NDp5Y0UULh2T4N6aqobqBbmB+OESYZPbCUVDAta91x3jes+ZcePJQ1mWaWdjPpz23Aq6ZooI!OYEOspgJ807n51Kd9o27Na3NCOlRbR/qMQVCv2W5viRDrBLHOsw8ttEto17WaaGVNgOHEPok2fHu!4A== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 6060 X-Original-Lines: 1 > JAB wrote > "What's the difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civi > Engineers > > Mechanical Engineers build weapons; Civil Engineers buil targets. The term engineer literally means you ar Liberal ( science ) in terms of creating new ideas The term technician literally means you are conservative ( arts ) in specific task Most engineers ( like my father ) works as technician, and will submi ideas ( they do not get thanked for properl outside of those stupid "Thank you" five dollar checks ). Civil-Engineering = Construction, like studying Matrix ( Win resistance X, Y ) or keeping things tall in the wind like the Statue Of Liberty, The Freedom-Tower/Condanast building Twin-Towers, Verozani Needle, and more. Oil-riggers for example ar closer to Civil-Engineering. High-end = asides for the above mentioned, imagine being in charge o every worker like a foreman, and being able to read construction documents, and plan ahead of time. More or les an architect or designer but you can tell the difference between roc types, and stones. Want to build a structure with light-up rocks bu can not be plastic. Is a great example. Low-end = "This old House" Mechanical Engineering = Electronics, or the inner workings o electronics. In order for you to run wires, connect them with solder, program various electronics like displays, or the inne workings of a television ( like if the PCB cracks and you have put every wire back together using googles. Knowing difference i radio types, or being able to read waves However = It does not go into the inner workings of Electronics. Lik creating a battery out of salt, water, and being able to compress tha in a small format. To even changing the current of the battery especially if you have a raid ), To even being able to send curren back up High-end = working in a university trying to solve energy problems Like fast charging devices and batteries Low-end = Electricians, and people working directly with electrica units ( like the ones that is clearly storing energy or even Car-mechanics are a type of Engineer Now think about IT ( information technologies ). You have methods tha are ( arts ) but when machines changes this might require you to tak exams and further testing, despite you might know the other method However pushing I to the side as somebody who puts computers together. You have to b comfortable enough to do this ( as a job ) and do it in a timely fashion That being said while a Mechanical Engineer can move things at a slo pace, they have a quota to meet. Civil-Enginee first priority is the safety of the employees. As OSHA could visit an slow things up via safety concerns. A Civil Engineer could have a Mechanical engineer, working alongside Electrical engineer, with an IT person But again there are different levels of "POC" ( Power o Command ). It could become problematic is everybod is not together. Being a contractor is far problematic then being a employee, because you will never know if you hav people who are actually functioning. If you hav "Civil-Engineer" who is working with construction, then al of thos people standing by ( getting paid to move things ) should be ther responsibility. Take Statue liberty. ( or any structure Civil-Engineer put that together with a team from various trainin levels Electrical Engineer run all the wires and possible electrica scenarios ( imagine leakage when a hole happens ). Mechanical engineer will run all the wires concerning, communications security, Hydroponics engineer will ensure there is water-flow and more the decent plumbings and have there tea IT will ensure ( after all the screws and bolts and wires and safety will have *automation via Computers While Computer Programming falls under this, it is spread thin depending on needs. However sometimes the ol way works better and is more secured then the newer models presente to the table * Now I mention automation. But this could be for anybody els mentioned because it could mean a variety of things .................................................... Because many of these people work alongside Maintenance workers, Security, and lesser trained jobs, many of them do not get the respect they deserve as it is a blue-collar, brown-collar, white-collar, cabana-collar scenario. So few people actually function in an ideal environment and can lead to stressful situations. Stereotypical job. Yes there is over-time, but they can be discrimination. Which is why we have unions you should look for not the lawyers from the company or organization you work for, but the union. Be aware many corps like IBM will have Lawyers posing as pro-union and thus create chaos or reasons to fire people for no reason. In order to make there hiring and firing ( bob situation ) look normalized. This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=669905586#669905586