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From: joes <noreply@example.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating
 itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 18:07:22 -0000 (UTC)
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Am Fri, 22 Nov 2024 10:36:25 -0600 schrieb olcott:
> On 11/22/2024 9:16 AM, joes wrote:
>> Am Fri, 22 Nov 2024 08:50:33 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 11/22/2024 6:20 AM, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:19:43 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>> On 11/21/2024 3:11 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>>> Am Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:19:03 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2024 10:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/20/24 9:57 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2024 5:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/24 5:03 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2024 3:53 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-20 03:23:12 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2024 4:12 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-18 20:42:02 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2024 3:41 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The "the mapping" on the subject line is not correct. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject line does not specify which mapping and there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no larger context that could specify that. Therefore it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be "a mapping".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-17 18:36:17 +0000, olcott said:

>>>>>>>> But it gets the wrong answer for the halting problem, as DDD dpes
>>>>>>>> halt.
>>>>>>> DDD emulated by HHH does not halt.
>>>>>> Whatever. DDD halts and HHH should return that.
>>>>> IT IS NOT THE SAME INSTANCE OF DDD.
>>>> All instances of DDD behave the same (if it is a pure function and
>>>> the HHH called from it doesn't switch behaviour by a static
>>>> variable).
>>> Only HHH is required to be a pure function, DDD is expressly allowed
>>> to be any damn thing.
>> TMs don't have side effects, such as reading a static Root variable.
> The static root variable has not one damn thing to do with the
> fact that DDD emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own "return"
> instruction.
It does. If it were always set to True, all instances of the same HHH
would abort and halt. Why else would it be there?

>>> The behavior of DDD emulated by HHH is different than the actual
>>> behavior of DDD emulated by HHH1.
>> Yes. HHH simulates it incorrectly.
-- 
Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.