Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:56:13 +0000 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 67 Message-ID: References: <9eb45192-e996-fa3d-b002-c02798bb2b7a@example.net> <5e0c7681-481e-b1b2-eec2-321c161c9fd5@example.net> <8Gq5P.102877$7FA3.45532@fx13.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 17:56:13 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="748ee020a51c9d96f04f56cbf1dd64f5"; logging-data="1078092"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+S5OWZ4YeiJq83PUFtKUgeGJ9NmG9zWu4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:3PcSDkEYchA3WOUBulv+6xNOVKg= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Bytes: 4205 On 10/12/2024 06:11, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 12/9/24 11:46 PM, Rich wrote: >> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote: >>> On 12/8/24 7:17 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> On 2024-12-08, Rich wrote: >>>> >>>>> And consider the explosive force stored in a 350-700 bar (your AI's >>>>> number) pressure vessel that becomes brittle enough to go "bang". >>>>> That's one hell of a bang, even without the hydrogen itself >>>>> explosively combusting as part of the pressure release. >>>> >>>> I've seen the results of a 200-bar scuba tank letting go.  And >>>> that's just a little 80-cubic foot tank filled with air. >>> >>>    I've seen that too - close up.  Blew out a reinforced CBC wall >>>    ......  sheer dumb luck nobody was in the filling room at the time >>>    or they'd have been Spam. >>> >>>>> Plus, the walls of the pressure vessel quite effectively become a >>>>> 'fragmentation grenade' in the process of going bang. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>    High-pressure containers - esp ones that have to 'cycle' often - >>>    are a bomb waiting to go off.  Fatigue/corrosion take their awful >>>    toll - then BOOM ! >>> >>>    If the boom is a flammable gas ... far worse. >>> >>>    Hydrogen CAN have its uses - but at "industrial" sites, not out in >>>    public.  You can feed it into expensive fuel cells, you can mix >>>    x-percent with natural gas. >>> >>>    But as a general-purpose 'motor fuel' ...  NO !  Besides, no proper >>>    infrastructure for it. >> >> For a 'motor fuel' it is difficult to replace the benefits of liquids >> that do not need pressure vessels (beyond their own evaporation >> pressure, which is usually quite mild).  We have an entire setup in >> place for transporting, storing, and dispensing liquids (gas/diesel >> pumps). >> >> But, to avoid more 'carbon' in the air, the liquids have to be >> synthesized somehow from carbon already in the air.  And that we don't >> have on a scale large enough to be a source to replace our current >> liquid fuels. > > >   The catalyst people ARE getting better with grabbing >   CO2 and turning it into various 'fuel' hydrocarbons >   again. If there's hope for "CO2 Capture" it's with >   these scientists. > >   They don't even HAVE to "break even" - just kinda >   sorta CLOSE. That'd be significant - "good enough" > >   Again, as for 'motor fuel', I suggest isopropanol, >   and it has a decent 'octane rating' - around 112. I'd prefer a clean diesel..better fuel efficiency -- Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people. But Marxism is the crack cocaine.