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From: "Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon>
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Subject: Re: SF writers in the work force JD Vance.
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:51:52 -0600
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On 11/11/2024 6:42 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 11/11/2024 6:36 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>> On 11/11/2024 5:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 11/9/2024 8:06 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>> On 11/9/2024 3:11 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> Dude, JD Vance was a Marine Corps officer, not Army.  And his 
>>>>> grandfather just lived down the street during his childhood with 
>>>>> extensive contact.
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance
>>>>>
>>>>> And Vance is the VP Elect.  He will be sworn in on Jan 20, 2025.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>> To slightly correct the correction, he was a non-commissioned 
>>>> office, a corporal.
>>>
>>> BTW, a corporal in the US Marine Corps is equivalent to a sergeant in 
>>> the US Army.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, not.
>>
>>       Marines                     Army
>> E-1  Private                     Private
>> E-2  Private First Class         Private
>> E-3  Lance Corporal              Private First Class
>> E-4  Corporal                    Corporal (or Specialist 4, Non-NCO)
>> E-5  Sergeant                    Sergeant
>> E-6  Staff Sergeant              Staff Sergeant
>> E-7  Gunnery Sergeant            Sergeant First Class
>> E-8  Master Sergeant             Master Sergeant
>> E-9  Master Gunnery Sergeant     Sergeant Major
>>
>> Note, E-8 in both when the senior NCO in a company are First Sergeant, 
>> E-9 when senior NCO in a battalion are Sergeant Major in Marines and 
>> Command Sergeant Major in the Army.
> 
> Sorry, going with my son who spent 8 years in the USMC and got out as a 
> Corporal.
> 
> Lynn
> 

Not unusual for troops not to know unless a person has interaction with 
other services. While in did a little training with Marines and their 
ranks are close enough to Army that it was easy to learn. 20 years as 
contractor with the Air Force and I still occasionally screwed up the 
senior ranks. Navy? Forget it.