Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: DB Cates Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Ool - out at first base? Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 10:23:29 -0600 Organization: University of Ediacara Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: <8gqqljd2at10o4dc137avfugiscjg91g7g@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="67525"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:x1WCescGv4rukBmlckekhpuXvc0= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id DE21C229782; Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:23:36 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4B12229765 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:23:34 -0500 (EST) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.98) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1tMUvT-00000001VdT-0Xu3; Sat, 14 Dec 2024 17:23:31 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pmx.weretis.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3AA43E8D2 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2024 17:23:28 +0100 (CET) id 7C4513E86A; Sat, 14 Dec 2024 17:23:28 +0100 (CET) Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwCAIA7CXZNDSnrOp/H/CEiSDu4tgYTCUX8B1UzRXrIA7BoZOfMepp5XljI1r+QfuPg9X Bytes: 3312 Lines: 21 On 2024-12-14 6:04 a.m., MarkE wrote: [big snip] > > Christian de Duve put it this way: "Science is based on the working > hypothesis that things are naturally explainable. This may or may not be > true. But the only way to find out is to make every possible effort to > explain things naturally. Only if one fails - assuming failure can ever > be definitely established - would be entitled to state that what one is > studying is not naturally explainable." > > That seems close what to what I'm proposing. Thoughts? > For argument's sake, let's say that is true. Now, how do you get from 'OoL is supernatural' to the Christian god or indeed any god at all? I suppose we could call it the 'god of OoL' but now what else do we know about this 'god'? -- -- Don Cates ("he's a cunning rascal" PN)