Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: OT Politics Re: Three Body Problem Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:00:17 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <96f3bb30-2134-0d32-a3ec-48f29580be82@example.net> <0e09c941-57a4-36e4-e04e-cf34eb1811b5@example.net> <0p74cj9ci0fi7gdq0n6ff0focttrmpg50b@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:00:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="08e1b64b8d6051594ad704d00f7f8667"; logging-data="2150119"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19OpQ68kNPUnlPWernIMjX9Pw8WNliU07o=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:QXsWn/ncInTlkGDLoZfbUzWzK+E= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3595 On 8/24/2024 3:37 PM, BCFD 36 wrote: > On 8/23/24 08:58, Paul S Person wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 01:08:02 -0700, BCFD 36 wrote: >> >>> On 8/22/24 23:48, Mad Hamish wrote: >>> >>> [stuff deleted] >>> >>>>>     He won the Electoral College and Hillary Clinton won the >>>>> popular vote. >>>>> >>>> Who landed on the moon first in your timeline? >>>> Because in this one he won the 2016 election against Hilary Clinton >>>> but lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden. >>> >>> The first statement was completely true. In 2016 Hillary won the popular >>> vote, but scum bucket won the Electoral College. In 2020 Biden won the >>> popular vote by an even larger margin than Hillary and the Electoral >>> College. >> >> Hiller "won" the popular vote only by a plurality. To actually /win/ a >> race based on the popular vote she would have had to get a majority. > > I don't believe this is true in most cases. For example, take a race for > Governor of just about any state. Democrat candidate get 48%. Republican > candidate gets 47%. Greens get 3%. The remaining 2% gets split among > many fringe parties. The Democrat candidate will now be the Governor and > there won't be a run off. > > This was true in Kansas, Nevada, and Oregon in the 2022 elections. See > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_gubernatorial_elections > for the actual info. > > However, in the Primary elections, many parties require that a candidate > get a majority before being declared as the party's candidate. > >> >> IOW, if it were the popular vote that counted, 2016 would have seen a >> runoff election [1] exactly two choices: Hillary and Trump. The >> expectation being that one or the other would get more that 50% of the >> votes. > > Only if that is how the election laws were written. I think it would be > wildly impractical to hold multiple national elections. Why? Lots of countries have elections with multiple rounds. France just had one. pt