Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 09:02:23 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <20240913a@crcomp.net> <87plohonz3.fsf@comcast.net.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 18:02:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0e0a975540a9d875968a6c95649e44d4"; logging-data="3990817"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/DVQqk2l/nyYuBCRmSYd7nd98LaQCiEt0=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:1c4urztSsLqgMJgEd9SC1Jl8sDk= Bytes: 3454 On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 20:38:08 -0700, Don_from_AZ wrote: >Paul S Person writes: > >> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 04:04:26 -0000 (UTC), Mike Van Pelt >> wrote: >> >>>In article , >>>Paul S Person wrote: >>>>That's why two types of camels exist: one for hot deserts, one for >>>>cold deserts. The number of humps is the clue as to which you are >>>>looking at, when you are looking at a camel. Or so I have been told. >>> >>>Huh. I wasn't aware of that distinction. I recall reading >>>that the U.S. Army experimented with camels for use in the >>>Southwest, and abandoned the project for some reason. >>> >>>And way back when... there was a TV western where Our Hero >>>rode a bactrian (two hump) camel. Not that I expect the >>>TV people to get this right, but did the Army try to use >>>the wrong kind of camel? >> >> I have no idea. >> >> More likely they found out why the camel has been described as "a >> horse designed by a committee".=20 > >In Quartzsite, Arizona, there is a gravesite with a small pyramid made >of quartz and petrified wood with a metal camel figure on the top that >is called the "Hi Jolly Monument". It commemorates a Syrian camel driver >named "Hadji Ali" (anglicized into "Hi Jolly") who was hired by the US >Army when they tried an experiment to see if camels could be used in the >western deserts of the US to transport people and freight. You can read >about it here: > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Jolly_Monument Hiding among the multiple links in the first paragraph is which notes that, among two films and a children's book (and other things), he is memorialized in a folk song. Which I have on the New Christie Minstrels /Ramblin'/ album, and so listen to from time to time. But I didn't know the backstory. Thanks for the information! It also summarizes the Camel Corps history. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"