Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 08:51:15 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <3tepjj96srch7vbilqi9f2d6uo6tvdgd2u@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 17:51:19 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8b028e24fb2112a6f66a82eb3b1ba38d"; logging-data="209760"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19zT7d+tcoPs7xkPHPB2FjGWvSXwoZNRKU=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:7h4KwmXzhFBd8VzkWFrxF0TVSNw= Bytes: 3248 On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:01:31 -0600, "Jay E. Morris" wrote: >On 11/19/2024 12:44 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> In article , >> Cryptoengineer wrote: >>> On 11/19/2024 11:25 AM, Paul S Person wrote: >>>> I don't suppose there is an easy way to relate a given cell phone >>>> number to the carrier and so to the @ address? >>> >>> No, there isn't. US phone numbers have been movable between carriers >>> for decades. I did it myself. >>=20 >> There is a national database -- obviously, because the incoming calls >> have to get routed to the right carrier. I seem to have misplaced the >> name of this database; it's operated under an FCC contract by an >> organization called the Number Portability Administration Center. >> Every phone call and SMS message requires a lookup in this database. >>=20 >> Originally, calls would be routed on the basis of the local exchange >> carrier to which the NPA-NXX was assigned, and then numbers which had >> been "ported out" would be kicked back to the originating carrier with >> a "not our number" message to force a database lookup. These days, >> it makes sense to just do the database dip unconditionally. (There's >> caching in the carrier networks to minimize their database access >> charges.) >>=20 >> Whether there's any way for normal people to get access to this >> information I don't know. >>=20 >> -GAWollman >>=20 > >As I said in the other message, https://www.whitepages.com/ and the=20 >reverse number lookup did give my carrier. I have not moved carriers in=20 >over 20 years though so someone who has would have to verify that it=20 >still gives the right carrier. I have that link and the Number Portability Administration Center recorded in a file aptly named "HardStuff.odt", but when or if I try to use it remains to be seen. So TIA to both of you for the info. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"