Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:42:15 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: References: <5b8de1bc-9f6c-4dde-a7cd-9e22e8ce19d9@att.net> <31419fde-62b3-46f3-89f6-a48f1fe82bc0@att.net> <476ae6cb-1116-44b1-843e-4be90d594372@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:42:15 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="10af3bc7caee4ceaa4972e93614969c0"; logging-data="74589"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18kghD3VscjAoCXtGBU6ulic52Q0xHvIaA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:PyYRvwRJfDJQospe6Xcfn+xHrHA= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 4029 On 19.11.2024 17:26, Jim Burns wrote: > On 11/19/2024 6:01 AM, WM wrote: >> That implies that >> our well-known intervals > > Sets with different intervals are different. > Our sets do not change. The intervals before and after shifting are not different. Only their positions are. Is the set {1} different from the set {1} because they have different positions? Is the set {1} in 1, 2, 3, ... different from the set {1} in -oo, ..., -1, 0, 1,... oo? > Sets of our well.known.intervals > can match some proper supersets without growing They cannot match the rational numbers without covering the whole positive real line. That means the relative covering has increased from 1/5 to 1. > Relative covering isn't measure. It is a measure! For every finite interval between natural numbers n and m the covered part is 1/5. > You haven't defined 'relative covering'. > Giving examples isn't a definition. If you are really too stupid to understand relative covering for finite intervals, then I will help you. But I can't believe that it is worthwhile. Your only reason of not knowing it is to defend set theory which has been destroyed by my argument. > I claim that there are functions f:ℝ→ℝ > such that > ⟨ f(⅟1) f(⅟2) f(⅟3) ... ⟩  = > ⟨ ⅟5    ⅟5    ⅟5    ... ⟩ > and  f(0)  =  1 Not in case of geometric shifting. All definable intervals fail in all definable positions. > >> So you deny analysis or / and geometry. > > I deny what you think analysis and geometry are. > I accept infinite sets > and discontinuous functions Discontinuity is not acceptable in the geometry of shifting intervals. > What is it you (WM) accuse infinite sets of, > other than not being finite? Nothing against infinite sets. I accuse matheologians to try to deceive. > > Note: > An infinite set > can match some proper supersets without growing I have proven that this is nonsense. Regards, WM