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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2024 00:11:13 +0000 Subject: Re: How can gravity itself escape a black hole? Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <0c2d15b56c8574a409160470daacd2aa@www.novabbs.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 17:11:21 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0c2d15b56c8574a409160470daacd2aa@www.novabbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <-CqdnUr_4o88gbn6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 35 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-nKJSTn2ae4TNYDy3LtmIPgR2JNWSwhJ+/DwlTiSN1RyAM1mnQDl+NSAtcNecQ+m2dQgNpBWZpabptuj!G4J5eW74AEjSyhTirV7r/FwP7AAoQzsfoFW6ca9ILsouWNt+nD/kKqAlHaGx5P4m3LMthuyL/C5g X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2549 On 10/31/2024 02:56 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: > When gravity moves at the speed of light? Well what you do is just provide a Lorentzian, that's a sort of FitzGeraldian, with regards to the relativity theory, about the absolutes and ideals and the absolute and relative of motion or magnitude or time, here motion, that results the invariant theory of the relativity theory is satisfied the Lorentzian, then what Einstein does is put GR first in front of SR, so that SR-ians, which are types who put SR first, are made local, while the FitzGeraldian Lorentzian frames out the space and the spatial, then SR gets what Einstein called the "spacial" or say "SR-spacial" as with regards to that "SR is local", in as regards then to _why_ that "c_g", the constant that is gravity's speed, can be that "c_g >> c", that c_g is much, much greater than c, while that c is yet a constant, that, gravity only moves at the speed of light at the center of the black hole anyways, and is otherwise always as going out instead, like a white hole. If you've never heard of Dirac's positronic sea there's another one Einstein's white-hole sea. .... To keep field theory from falling apart, for example. Anyways whatever fulfills the "Lorentzian" the SR-ians would only be able to say "I can't tell the difference".