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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 08:39:32 +0000 Subject: Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <3LScnf6o-ddHmXD6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <m55g9gF1fe1U1@mid.individual.net> <PrWcnfSsir_Q_3P6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <m5834aFe093U2@mid.individual.net> <vLqdnVb4yaZObXP6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <m58omiFguqjU3@mid.individual.net> <20250404075333.000000fc@gmail.com> <m5ap7fFr19rU3@mid.individual.net> From: c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2025 04:39:30 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <m5ap7fFr19rU3@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <-UadnYX0z-bYcW36nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 36 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-pkGGsdvWoAgHfO7LiCBFCSBDYvUMa1patlAlkZEWuNe1QurhhKmB+W21knITbIxZIQ1dlTBx6Z2XEzX!TUfIZ5UlusQY+6YPCEc290iDr7/PKcO12xb4UfE6KF6nW4eJGD9dMJAdKOvFCiuYrQxIs6ykBRPq X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3129 On 4/4/25 3:11 PM, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 07:53:33 -0700, John Ames wrote: > >> On 4 Apr 2025 00:50:26 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> >>> The version I bought was for CP/M. TBH I wasn't all that interested in >>> Pascal but I wanted to see what you could possibly get for $49.95. >> >> That was the key: fast, usable, and *way* cheaper than anything else on >> the market. (Microsoft C - really just a re-branded Lattice C - cost >> *ten times as much,* the same year TP rolled out.) Whether Pascal was >> your favorite programming language or not, that made a *big* difference >> to scrappy independent developers and prospective enterpreneurs. > > Microsoft C 3.0 was a polished product for its day with printed manuals > and everything. GE paid for it so I don't know what it cost. Before they > got into Windows I thought of MS more as a tool provider, with MSDOS as an > afterthought. It was third party TSRs and, iirc, Quaterdeck's memory > manager that made DOS on an AT usable. Ah, I remember QEMM ... a big improvement, could actually use a LOT of RAM. The compilers offered by IBM/(M$) were very good. We kinda though of M$ as a hero company back then, all the good tools. Then ......... As I recall ... there was 'C' and Pascal and FORTRAN along with a MASM. A BASIC compiler was also to be had (and I used it). Of course those were all the typical multi-pass compilers - two, three, four steps to get an executable of even a short simple pgm. BUT, they worked. Still have those in a DOS VM and mess with them from time to time.