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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <-tG8Hi03qne7eCcgi1yM30wkd7Y@jntp> JNTP-Route: nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Relativity is a pseudoscience II. The Hafele-Keating HOAX, References: <dad338831baa98f3eb1ca50452fd9401@www.novabbs.com> <97c2c8397e3438c708a9737638c6400b@www.novabbs.com> <Ioqv-kjMkurXg5wgjWCVAfjII5o@jntp> <ffbb8186fd90b7c548eb087cc855dd59@www.novabbs.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: mwcHPSY9fHefAh06KURE-vI7ttc JNTP-ThreadID: dad338831baa98f3eb1ca50452fd9401@www.novabbs.com JNTP-Uri: https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=-tG8Hi03qne7eCcgi1yM30wkd7Y@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/1.0 JNTP-OriginServer: nemoweb.net Date: Thu, 12 Sep 24 18:44:20 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/128.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-09-12T18:44:20Z/9020017"; posting-account="4@nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> Bytes: 3382 Lines: 48 Le 12/09/2024 à 20:20, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit : > R.H.: As long as the cause of the time dilation is relative motion per > se, then it will be necessarily self-contradictory. I totally agree, it is obviously a huge blunder by physicists who, I repeat, breathe, exhale, are making a huge blunder of incomprehension. Physicists confuse time dilation and chronotropy dilation. It is quite incredible that today, in 2024, we do not understand what I am saying, because no one is making the effort to understand. YOU, you confuse the two notions, and inevitably you find it absurd. It is perfectly absurd, it is true, to think that the watch of two speakers will beat continuously and reciprocally faster than the watch opposite, and that at the meeting the two watches will mark the same time, or worse, that each will be older than the other. BUT ARE YOU ALL MORONS PHYSICISTS OR WHAT? ? ? But you didn't understand anything, you didn't understand ANYTHING. We breathe, we blow, we listen to the genius, we get the earwax out of our ears. It's not TIME that beats reciprocally less quickly on the other clock (otherwise it's absurd on the way back), it's the internal CHRONOTROPY. It's NOT the same thing. To this chrootropy, we must add the crossed anisochrony (which is in first degree relation with the distance). And there, no more problem. Stella is 18 years old and Terrence 30 for Stella. And it's consistent, for Terrence, it's also Stella who is 18 years old, and he who is 30. I beg you. I beg you to understand this phenomenon, and to stop, if possible, this filthy dick contest which consists of denigrating everything I have said for 40 years, for the simple pleasure of showing off your trilili which you believe (Freud) is necessarily of an exceptional size compared to that of others. UNDERSTAND, and judge AFTERWARDS! R.H.