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On May 28, 2024, D wrote
(in article<8b72ee94-b4fc-7ce6-5542-3c511f5b39ab@example.net>):

>
> On Mon, 27 May 2024, WolfFan wrote:
>
> > On May 27, 2024, D wrote
> > (in article<6c70bb08-bf62-3bf8-1e39-25eca1609d63@example.net>):
> >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 26 May 2024, WolfFan wrote:
> > >
> > > > On May 26, 2024, D wrote
> > > > (in article<e9e47a95-a341-04a3-4127-ef741c483bf8@example.net>):
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 25 May 2024, Bernard Peek wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 2024-05-25, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ehh incorrect. I lived there and detected no such thing. Bird-flu isn't
> > > > > > > even a topic in the news and no one where I live talks about it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's been found in cattle in several parts of the US and there have been
> > > > > > two
> > > > > > cases of transmission from cattle to people. So far no cases of
> > > > > > person-to-person transmission.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2 out of 8 billion. I am so scared! ;) Call me again if we reach one in
> > > > > two and until then, I won't be bothered.
> > > > >
> > > > > Corona, by the way, was about as dangerous for my age group as driving a
> > > > > car. That figure came from the government, so all hysteria was just
> > > > > nonsense.
> > > >
> > > > one of my nieces died of covid. She was 25. She died before there were any
> > > > vaccines.
> > >
> > > Ok. Sad, but there are people who die of bananas, and we don't ban
> > > bananas. In that age group, corona was about as dangerous as driving a
> > > car, so not justifiable to close down the world for a flu.
> >
> > bloody hell:
> >
> > 1. covid-19 ain’t ‘a flu’
> >
> > 2. the ’Spanish’ flu of 1918, spread from the US because of an idiot
> > American general who didn’t want ‘a flu’ to prevent deploying American
> > troops to Europe, called the Spanish Flu because it was first reported in
> > Spanish newspapers, as American, British, French, and German newspapers were
> > made to shut up for reasons of denying the enemy info during a world war,
> > killed more people than the fighting in WWI. And that was ‘a flu’.
> >
> > You’re radically ignorant about epidemiology, and proud of it.
> > >
> > >
> > > > None, zero, of the rest of the family, and there’s a LOT of us, had any
> > > > problems whatsoever with the vaccine.
> > >
> > > I've heard of many who had problems with vaccines.
> >
> > I’ve seen dead bodies because idiots refused to vaccinate.
> > > Also note the double
> > > standard. Anyone who died 30 days after corona was a corona victim. If
> > > this would have been applied to the vaccines, you'd see even higher death
> > > rates.
> >
> > Bullshit. that’s not how epidemiology works. You are, again, radically
> > ignorant and incredibly proud of that.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Note that I do not work for any government. I was one of the driving
> > > > forces
> > > > behind the vaccination policy at work: no vaccine? Cool. Stay out of the
> > > > building. If you can remote work, carry on. If you can’t, either get
> > >
> > > In my company we had the reverse. If you're vaccinated, stay at home. On
> > > the other hand, I Don't hire pro-government hysterical corona people, so
> > > it was pretty much a non-issue. And no one died, which shows that unless
> > > you're old, it was mostly psychosomatic.
> >
> > Bullshit. You can’t possibly enforce that. With us, we merely request to
> > see the vaccination card. No card? You better have a good reason. “I lost
> > it” means “get a duplicate”. “I don’t want to get vaccinated” is
> > not a good reason. All that would be necessary for someone who got
> > vaccinated
> > to keep working there (God knows why they’d want to hang around with
> > idiots) is to simply not show you their card. How would you find out that
> > they lied?
> >
> > It’s not just bullshit, it’s transparently obvious bullshit which NEVER
> > HAPPENED. You’re not just an idiot, you think that everyone’s as stupids
> > as you are.
> > >
> > >
> > > > vaccinated or get another job. This is a right to work state, we can fire
> > > > you
> > >
> > > Let me correct that... let the government foricbly inject you, or else we
> > > let you starve.
> >
> > not the government, idiot. I got my vaccinations from Walgreens. A private
> > company.
> > >
> > >
> > > That is similar policies to nazi-germany and the soviet union, just so you
> > > know.
> >
> > Bullshit.
> > >
> > >
> > > If the vaccines work, there's no need to be afraid of un-vaccinated, or if
> > > you are, you are basically admitting that the vaccines don't work, and
> > > then they are just a charade.
> >
> > Bullshit. Not all can take vaccinations. Vaccinations are not 100%
> > effective.
> > If you had even slight knowledge of epidemiology you would know this.
> > You’re breathtakingly ignorant, and proud of it.
> > >
> > >
> > > > for any reason we want. (Ron DeSatan tried to set things up so that idiots
> > > > couldn’t, officially, be fired for not getting a vaccination; however,
> > > > the
> > > > kind of idiot who refused to vacvinate usually had done something in the
> > > > past
> > > > which we could have fired him for but didn’t. Officially, that’s why
> > > > he
> > > > was fired, and we have the paperwork going back to before the pandemic to
> > > > prove it. Kiss my ass, DeSatan.)
> > > >
> > > > You’re perfectly free to not get vaccinated. You’re not free to not
> > > > get
> > > > vaccinated and work here.
> > >
> > > Likewise and reverse. No work for you if you are vaccinated at my company.
> > > And this is why a libertarian world is the only way to peace.
> >
> > Bullshit. you can’t possibly identify those who got vaccinated. I can
> > identify those who did not. Typically they will self-identify; that is how I
> > found out about two anti-vaxxers who were visiting my house, one of whom had
> > to be physically ejected and tried to call the cops. They were pig-ignorant
> > buffoons, and loud about it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Also note the irony, that in my world you are free to vaccinate yourself
> > > if you want, do heavy drugs etc. but in your world, I must subject myself
> > > to medical experiments to be able to participate.
> > >
> > > I think that's a pretty authoritarian and sh*tty world view, but I'm glad
> > > that you are not the president and I'm glad that the legal system is so
> > > full of loop holes that I was able to travel without a mask and meet the
> > > people I could after a bit of legal threatening and arguing. =)
> > >
> > > > Perhaps those who passed the Right To Work laws (hint: not Democrats)
> > > > should
> > > > have thought things through before ramming the laws through.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I say, protect the old if they want it and let the rest live their lives
> > > > > as normal, which is what eventually sweden did, which was proven to be
> > > > > the
> > > > > right way. Not limiting peoples freedoms and becoming authoritarian.
> > > >
> > > > public health is about the public im general. Not you specifically.
> > >
> > > I don't agree.
> >
> > your agreement is not necessary. Public health is about the public in
> > general. It’s right there on the label.
> > > All there is is individuals, and I have full autonomy and
> > > control of my body and no one else. I do not recognize any laws that claim
> > > otherwise.
> >
> > you have full autonomy as long as you’re not near me.
> > >
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